[DeTomaso] Radiators
marshallgsmith
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Mon Jun 29 00:10:43 EDT 2015
Don't discount the original radiator. It is very good and has cooled my car for many years.All that is needed is modern day high volume fans.
Marshall
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From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: mikeldrew at aol.com, steve at snclocks.com, detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator for the Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their version on eBay with some happy customers.
Julian
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
From: detomaso at poca.com
In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, steve at snclocks.com writes:
> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep from
> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank. Looks like it has been
> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine at 1500
> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c. It's a Fluidyne radiator, bought
> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
>
>>>Bummer. Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne radiators
(at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very well but
had very poor longevity.
>
> >Hence the following questions:
>
> Is it worth getting the leak tig'd? I have no doubt that a friend can
> weld up the current leak - it looks to be on the front of the tube and pretty
> accessible. But, search "Fluidyne radiator leak" and one gets a lot of
> hits. What is the experience of you guys who have them in your cars?
>
>>>I only have second-hand experience with them. Typically when they
start leaking, it's not due to an insult (i.e. rock hitting a tube), but rather
they leak where the tubes join the end tanks. And if you contact Fluidyne
to ask them WTF, they tell you it's not repairable, but they will happily
sell you a new one at full price.
Asa Jay had a remarkable experience with them; they actually listened to
his problem, and eventually stood behind their product. But his experience
is the exception rather than the rule.
On the other hand, if your leak is caused by a hole in a tube and it can be
accessed and fixed, it's certainly worth a try?
>
> >I see that FlowKooler has a more conventional radiator (not aluminum).
> Do any of you have experience with their unit? I note they state: "
> Repeated calls from Pantera car owners complaining about leaking aluminum
> radiators in their Panteras led FlowKooler to work with its sister company, The
> Brassworks, to design not only the primary radiator and fan assembly but the
> auxiliary cooling system for the rear of the car." While their radiator
> costs more, well, perhaps not depending on how lont Fluidyne's last.
>
> Any and all comments welcome.
>
>>>I've long advocated use of the standard (not 'Phoenix') Hall Pantera
brass radiator. They cost about the same as the Fluidyne units, cool just as
well, and are infinitely repairable by a local radiator shop in the event of
a problem. My car runs down the road right at 180 degrees, and idling in
traffic forever, it will get up to about 195 with both fans running. Lori
has the same radiator/fans in her car with exactly the same results.
If you have to buy one, I can't recommend that one highly enough. But if
you can get away with repairing yours, I'd try that first.
Good luck!
Mike
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Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their version on
eBay with some happy customers.
Julian
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
From: detomaso at poca.com
In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, steve at snclocks.com writes:
> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep from
> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank. Looks like it has bee
n
> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine at 1500
> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c. It's a Fluidyne radiator, bought
> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
>
>>>Bummer. Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne radiators
(at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very well but
had very poor longevity.
>
> >Hence the following questions:
>
> Is it worth getting the leak tig'd? I have no doubt that a friend can
> weld up the current leak - it looks to be on the front of the tube and pretty
> accessible. But, search "Fluidyne radiator leak" and one gets a lot of
> hits. What is the experience of you guys who have them in your cars?
>
>>>I only have second-hand experience with them. Typically when they
start leaking, it's not due to an insult (i.e. rock hitting a tube), but rather
they leak where the tubes join the end tanks. And if you contact Fluidyne
to ask them WTF, they tell you it's not repairable, but they will happily
sell you a new one at full price.
Asa Jay had a remarkable experience with them; they actually listened to
his problem, and eventually stood behind their product. But his experience
is the exception rather than the rule.
On the other hand, if your leak is caused by a hole in a tube and it can be
accessed and fixed, it's certainly worth a try?
>
> >I see that FlowKooler has a more conventional radiator (not aluminum).
> Do any of you have experience with their unit? I note they state: "
> Repeated calls from Pantera car owners complaining about leaking aluminum
> radiators in their Panteras led FlowKooler to work with its sister company, Th
e
> Brassworks, to design not only the primary radiator and fan assembly but the
> auxiliary cooling system for the rear of the car." While their radiator
> costs more, well, perhaps not depending on how lont Fluidyne's last.
>
> Any and all comments welcome.
>
>>>I've long advocated use of the standard (not 'Phoenix') Hall Pantera
brass radiator. They cost about the same as the Fluidyne units, cool just as
well, and are infinitely repairable by a local radiator shop in the event of
a problem. My car runs down the road right at 180 degrees, and idling in
traffic forever, it will get up to about 195 with both fans running. Lori
has the same radiator/fans in her car with exactly the same results.
If you have to buy one, I can't recommend that one highly enough. But if
you can get away with repairing yours, I'd try that first.
Good luck!
Mike
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Don't discount the original radiator. It is very good and has cooled my
car for many years.All that is needed is modern day high volume fans.
Marshall
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: mikeldrew at aol.com, steve at snclocks.com, detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator for the
Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their version on
eBay with some happy customers.
Julian
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
From: detomaso at poca.com
In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, steve at snclocks.com writes:
> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep from
> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank. Looks like
it has been
> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine at
1500
> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c. It's a Fluidyne radiator,
bought
> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
>
>>>Bummer. Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne
radiators
(at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very well
but
had very poor longevity.
>
> >Hence the following questions:
>
> Is it worth getting the leak tig'd? I have no doubt that a friend
can
> weld up the current leak - it looks to be on the front of the tube
and pretty
> accessible. But, search "Fluidyne radiator leak" and one gets a lot
of
> hits. What is the experience of you guys who have them in your cars?
>
>>>I only have second-hand experience with them. Typically when they
start leaking, it's not due to an insult (i.e. rock hitting a tube),
but rather
they leak where the tubes join the end tanks. And if you contact
Fluidyne
to ask them WTF, they tell you it's not repairable, but they will
happily
sell you a new one at full price.
Asa Jay had a remarkable experience with them; they actually listened
to
his problem, and eventually stood behind their product. But his
experience
is the exception rather than the rule.
On the other hand, if your leak is caused by a hole in a tube and it
can be
accessed and fixed, it's certainly worth a try?
>
> >I see that FlowKooler has a more conventional radiator (not
aluminum).
> Do any of you have experience with their unit? I note they state: "
> Repeated calls from Pantera car owners complaining about leaking
aluminum
> radiators in their Panteras led FlowKooler to work with its sister
company, The
> Brassworks, to design not only the primary radiator and fan assembly
but the
> auxiliary cooling system for the rear of the car." While their
radiator
> costs more, well, perhaps not depending on how lont Fluidyne's last.
>
> Any and all comments welcome.
>
>>>I've long advocated use of the standard (not 'Phoenix') Hall Pantera
brass radiator. They cost about the same as the Fluidyne units, cool
just as
well, and are infinitely repairable by a local radiator shop in the
event of
a problem. My car runs down the road right at 180 degrees, and idling
in
traffic forever, it will get up to about 195 with both fans running.
Lori
has the same radiator/fans in her car with exactly the same results.
If you have to buy one, I can't recommend that one highly enough. But
if
you can get away with repairing yours, I'd try that first.
Good luck!
Mike
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For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator for
the
Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their version on
eBay with some happy customers.
Julian
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
From: detomaso at poca.com
In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, steve at snclocks.com writes:
> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep from
> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank. Looks like
it has bee
n
> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine at
1500
> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c. It's a Fluidyne radiator,
bought
> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
>
>>>Bummer. Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne
radiators
(at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very well
but
had very poor longevity.
>
> >Hence the following questions:
>
> Is it worth getting the leak tig'd? I have no doubt that a friend
can
> weld up the current leak - it looks to be on the front of the tube
and pretty
> accessible. But, search "Fluidyne radiator leak" and one gets a lot
of
> hits. What is the experience of you guys who have them in your cars?
>
>>>I only have second-hand experience with them. Typically when they
start leaking, it's not due to an insult (i.e. rock hitting a tube),
but rather
they leak where the tubes join the end tanks. And if you contact
Fluidyne
to ask them WTF, they tell you it's not repairable, but they will
happily
sell you a new one at full price.
Asa Jay had a remarkable experience with them; they actually listened
to
his problem, and eventually stood behind their product. But his
experience
is the exception rather than the rule.
On the other hand, if your leak is caused by a hole in a tube and it
can be
accessed and fixed, it's certainly worth a try?
>
> >I see that FlowKooler has a more conventional radiator (not
aluminum).
> Do any of you have experience with their unit? I note they state: "
> Repeated calls from Pantera car owners complaining about leaking
aluminum
> radiators in their Panteras led FlowKooler to work with its sister
company, Th
e
> Brassworks, to design not only the primary radiator and fan assembly
but the
> auxiliary cooling system for the rear of the car." While their
radiator
> costs more, well, perhaps not depending on how lont Fluidyne's last.
>
> Any and all comments welcome.
>
>>>I've long advocated use of the standard (not 'Phoenix') Hall Pantera
brass radiator. They cost about the same as the Fluidyne units, cool
just as
well, and are infinitely repairable by a local radiator shop in the
event of
a problem. My car runs down the road right at 180 degrees, and idling
in
traffic forever, it will get up to about 195 with both fans running.
Lori
has the same radiator/fans in her car with exactly the same results.
If you have to buy one, I can't recommend that one highly enough. But
if
you can get away with repairing yours, I'd try that first.
Good luck!
Mike
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