[DeTomaso] Project on Ebay
Cullen McCann
cmccann1972 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 2 11:53:35 EDT 2015
I also asked about the possibility of buying parts from him if the car does
not meet the reserve. Got the same shorter, not-so chipper answer. if
anyone on the list winds up with the car, and for any reason decides to
part it out, please keep me in mind. I'm a serious buyer for a handful of
things needed for my project.
Cullen
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
> I sent an email regarding the Panteras and asked if there was a story,
> and got a short rude non-answer. I guess not a happy story?
> Ken
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> Cc: DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>; "patrickhals at gmail.com"
> <patrickhals at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Project on Ebay
> Gents,
> I communicated with the seller of this car on three separate occasions.
> He stalled and delayed my attempts to go see the car in person every
> time. I told him I could be interested (up to a certain dollar amount)
> and that there were other interested parties that I represent but he
> didn't pull it together to let me see it.
> I am headed out of town for a few weeks so I won't be able to deal with
> it any further. Hope someone else has had more luck with this guy.
> Clearly he's got lots of other stuff for sale including what appears to
> be two other Panteras.
> Regards,
> Emiliano in Albuquerque
> 5910 L
> 7205 GTS
> Sent from my iPhone
> On May 28, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Cullen McCann <[1]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> FWIW:
> Oklahoma's title 42 process has recently changed. For those who do
> not
> know, the title 42 process was specifically created so a "mechanic"
> can
> file a lien against a piece of property for which he is owed value
> from
> labor. It allows him to assume the value of the property to cover his
> lost debt from non-paying owner.A It is not at all synonymous with
> "filing for a lost title".A A lost-title process is
> (technically)A appropriate onlyA if the person doing the filing is
> also
> the person whose name is on the title in the DMV database. So, in
> other
> words, only a "current" registered owner of a said vehicle can file
> for
> its lost title. I find it humorous the number of people who list a
> car
> for sale on the internet and say "you will have to file for a lost
> title"...which cannot be done in Oklahoma if you are not the
> registered
> owner. As in the case of many vintage cars, they may not have the VIN
> or owner on file. Oddly, the tax commission would even suggest a
> title
> 42 process...but that was because they knew that was the only method
> in
> place for obtaining it.
> The "title 42" process recently changed dramatically. People were
> using
> that process to obtain titles for cars that they purchased without
> one.
> Which admittedly seems justifiable because there SHOULD be a way to
> legally obtain a title for car purchased honestly without a title.
> For
> example...a man has a car in a barn or hayfield... his grandfather
> owned it, left it to his son who left it to his son and the title
> hasn't been seen in decades. There honestly should be a way for that
> car to be titled. People were drafting up the title 42 paperwork,
> falsifying the names for mechanics and owners and all the
> requirements
> therein, and getting titles issued for cars they purchased under
> honest
> conditions. The DMV / Tax Commission finally caught on and changed
> the
> process in Oklahoma. I haven't seen the new process in detail yet but
> its now a FELONY to falsify your information in such process, and
> there
> is several checks and balances in place to ensure you don't. Plus
> even
> the original title 42 process is like an out-of-state purchase...a
> visual vin inspection is required by the title agency.
> Not sure what other states are doing. I even know people are doing
> the
> title 42 in OTHER states, Then importing the car into their own to
> skirt the process. Moral of the story... Im not saying it cant be
> done,
> but be VERY clear about what you need to do in order to obtain the
> title, prior to buying.A Do your research first.A Some states do
> allow
> a process for affidavit signing and a court-order issued title... but
> they only time I have seen that work is if its a car that has no
> history on file, good or bad and you have to appear in the county
> courthouse etc.
> Thats about all I know about that.
> Cullen
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Julian Kift
> <[1][2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> A A I'm just catching up on list emails so apologies if this has
> already
> A A been answered.
> A A Has the eBay lsiting text has been amended since it was first
> posted?
> A A I'm damn sure it said the car came out of California or did I
> read that
> A A somewhere on a list response? The ad does state it was
> purchased from a
> A A salvage pool, which may present challenges obtaining even a
> salvage
> A A title without a state inspection to verify it has been
> professionally
> A A repaired to roadworthy condition. The process may be made more
> A A difficult if it is recorded in an insurance loss datablase.
> Obviously
> A A the repair and inspection wouldn't be viable if purchased for
> export
> A A and intended repair overseas. Check with your local DMV as the
> ability
> A A to retitle a salvage vehicle varies considerably state to
> state.
> A A Julian
> A A Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 21:25:37 +0200
> A A From: [2][3]patrickhals at gmail.com
> A A To: [3][4]detomaso at poca.com
> A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Project on Ebay
> is it possible to get a title ?
> The seller answered me it was sold with a Bill of sale only.
> Yet, the VIN seems to be 3151, so it should have been titled
> somewhere ...
> I have not seen that the ZF was included??? Am i wrong ?
> If someone goes and inspect it , I'd like to see the report :>))
> A French friend of mine is looking for a Pantera body.
> It is already priced at 6092 USD... This already seems to be a lot
> Will definitely need help for shipping to Antwerp ( belgium )
> ....should I
> win the auction ! ( unlikely )
> Pat ( Candy 2862 )
> Patrick Hals
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I also asked about the possibility of buying parts from him if the car
does not meet the reserve. Got the same shorter, not-so
chipperA answer. if anyone on the list winds up with the car, and for
any reason decides to part it out, please keep me in mind. I'm a
serious buyer for a handful of things needed for my project.
Cullen
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A I sent an email regarding the Panteras and asked if there was a
story,
A A and got a short rude non-answer.A I guess not a happy story?
A A Ken
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: E B <[2]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
A A To:
A A Cc: DeTomaso Forum <[3]detomaso at poca.com>;
"[4]patrickhals at gmail.com"
A A <[5]patrickhals at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 6:52 PM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Project on Ebay
A A Gents,
A A I communicated with the seller of this car on three separate
occasions.
A A He stalled and delayed my attempts to go see the car in person
every
A A time. I told him I could be interested (up to a certain dollar
amount)
A A and that there were other interested parties that I represent
but he
A A didn't pull it together to let me see it.
A A I am headed out of town for a few weeks so I won't be able to
deal with
A A it any further. Hope someone else has had more luck with this
guy.
A A Clearly he's got lots of other stuff for sale including what
appears to
A A be two other Panteras.
A A Regards,
A A Emiliano in Albuquerque
A A 5910 L
A A 7205 GTS
A A Sent from my iPhone
A A On May 28, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Cullen McCann
<[1][6]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
A A wrote:
A A A FWIW:
A A A Oklahoma's title 42 process has recently changed. For those who
do
A A not
A A A know, the title 42 process was specifically created so a
"mechanic"
A A can
A A A file a lien against a piece of property for which he is owed
value
A A from
A A A labor. It allows him to assume the value of the property to
cover his
A A A lost debt from non-paying owner.AA It is not at all synonymous
with
A A A "filing for a lost title".AA A lost-title process is
A A A (technically)A appropriate onlyA if the person doing the filing
is
A A also
A A A the person whose name is on the title in the DMV database. So,
in
A A other
A A A words, only a "current" registered owner of a said vehicle can
file
A A for
A A A its lost title. I find it humorous the number of people who
list a
A A car
A A A for sale on the internet and say "you will have to file for a
lost
A A A title"...which cannot be done in Oklahoma if you are not the
A A registered
A A A owner. As in the case of many vintage cars, they may not have
the VIN
A A A or owner on file. Oddly, the tax commission would even suggest
a
A A title
A A A 42 process...but that was because they knew that was the only
method
A A in
A A A place for obtaining it.
A A A The "title 42" process recently changed dramatically. People
were
A A using
A A A that process to obtain titles for cars that they purchased
without
A A one.
A A A Which admittedly seems justifiable because there SHOULD be a
way to
A A A legally obtain a title for car purchased honestly without a
title.
A A For
A A A example...a man has a car in a barn or hayfield... his
grandfather
A A A owned it, left it to his son who left it to his son and the
title
A A A hasn't been seen in decades. There honestly should be a way for
that
A A A car to be titled. People were drafting up the title 42
paperwork,
A A A falsifying the names for mechanics and owners and all the
A A requirements
A A A therein, and getting titles issued for cars they purchased
under
A A honest
A A A conditions. The DMV / Tax Commission finally caught on and
changed
A A the
A A A process in Oklahoma. I haven't seen the new process in detail
yet but
A A A its now a FELONY to falsify your information in such process,
and
A A there
A A A is several checks and balances in place to ensure you don't.
Plus
A A even
A A A the original title 42 process is like an out-of-state
purchase...a
A A A visual vin inspection is required by the title agency.
A A A Not sure what other states are doing. I even know people are
doing
A A the
A A A title 42 in OTHER states, Then importing the car into their own
to
A A A skirt the process. Moral of the story... Im not saying it cant
be
A A done,
A A A but be VERY clear about what you need to do in order to obtain
the
A A A title, prior to buying.A Do your research first.AA Some states
do
A A allow
A A A a process for affidavit signing and a court-order issued
title... but
A A A they only time I have seen that work is if its a car that has
no
A A A history on file, good or bad and you have to appear in the
county
A A A courthouse etc.
A A A Thats about all I know about that.
A A A Cullen
A A A On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Julian Kift
A A A <[1][2][7]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A A A AA A I'm just catching up on list emails so apologies if
this has
A A A A already
A A A A AA A been answered.
A A A A AA A Has the eBay lsiting text has been amended since it
was first
A A A A posted?
A A A A AA A I'm damn sure it said the car came out of California
or did I
A A A A read that
A A A A AA A somewhere on a list response? The ad does state it was
A A A A purchased from a
A A A A AA A salvage pool, which may present challenges obtaining
even a
A A A A salvage
A A A A AA A title without a state inspection to verify it has been
A A A A professionally
A A A A AA A repaired to roadworthy condition. The process may be
made more
A A A A AA A difficult if it is recorded in an insurance loss
datablase.
A A A A Obviously
A A A A AA A the repair and inspection wouldn't be viable if
purchased for
A A A A export
A A A A AA A and intended repair overseas. Check with your local
DMV as the
A A A A ability
A A A A AA A to retitle a salvage vehicle varies considerably state
to
A A A A state.
A A A A AA A Julian
A A A A AA A Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 21:25:37 +0200
A A A A AA A From: [2][3][8]patrickhals at gmail.com
A A A A AA A To: [3][4][9]detomaso at poca.com
A A A A AA A Subject: [DeTomaso] Project on Ebay
A A A A is it possible to get a title ?
A A A A The seller answered me it was sold with a Bill of sale
only.
A A A A Yet, the VIN seems to be 3151, so it should have been
titled
A A A A somewhere ...
A A A A I have not seen that the ZF was included??? Am i wrong ?
A A A A If someone goes and inspect it , I'd like to see the
report :>))
A A A A A French friend of mine is looking for a Pantera body.
A A A A It is already priced at 6092 USD... This already seems to
be a lot
A A A A Will definitely need help for shipping to Antwerp (
belgium )
A A A A ....should I
A A A A win the auction ! ( unlikely )
A A A A Pat ( Candy 2862 )
A A A A Patrick Hals
A A A A [4][10]+32.476.567.898
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