[DeTomaso] Project on Ebay

Boyd Casey boyd411 at gmail.com
Fri Jun 5 15:45:45 EDT 2015


When I bought the 911 Carrea from a junk yard (in NY) I had to first check
that it wasn't listed as a stolen car. Then I had to do a search for a
registered lien holder. Then I had to place ads in publications that met
certain criteria that I no longer remember. Then I had to send a registered
letter to the last lien holder informing them that I held a mechanics lien
on the car. To make a long story short once I determined the car wasn't
reported as stolen and the lien holder didn't reply to my registered letter
I took the paper work to Rhode island , I had a house in Newport at the
time ( which accepted a hand written bill of sale) and was issued a Rhode
island Registration and lic. plates. I then took the RI registration to
Virginia beach ( which is where I had my legal residence) and they issued a
Virginia title. The VA DMV did make me sign an affidavit stating that I
would cooperate and return the VA title if someone appeared in VA with a
valid title from another state. So as I said earlier it was possible( At
the time ) . I never had my title challenged and no other owners
materialised. In this case I paid $10,000 for the car and it was worth
$35,000 (Which I collected when the Porsche was stolen while I was in NYC)
So there needs to be a potential for a decent upside to make the whole
thing worth while. I know there are firms that will guarantee to get you a
valid title for a fee.

Boyd

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
wrote:

>    I also asked about the possibility of buying parts from him if the car
>    does not meet the reserve. Got the same shorter, not-so
>    chipperA answer. if anyone on the list winds up with the car, and for
>    any reason decides to part it out, please keep me in mind. I'm a
>    serious buyer for a handful of things needed for my project.
>    Cullen
>
>    On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
>    <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
>      A  A I sent an email regarding the Panteras and asked if there was a
>      story,
>      A  A and got a short rude non-answer.A  I guess not a happy story?
>      A  A Ken
>      A  A
>      A __________________________________________________________________
>      A  A From: E B <[2]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
>      A  A To:
>      A  A Cc: DeTomaso Forum <[3]detomaso at poca.com>;
>      "[4]patrickhals at gmail.com"
>      A  A <[5]patrickhals at gmail.com>
>      A  A Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 6:52 PM
>      A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Project on Ebay
>      A  A Gents,
>      A  A I communicated with the seller of this car on three separate
>      occasions.
>      A  A He stalled and delayed my attempts to go see the car in person
>      every
>      A  A time. I told him I could be interested (up to a certain dollar
>      amount)
>      A  A and that there were other interested parties that I represent
>      but he
>      A  A didn't pull it together to let me see it.
>      A  A I am headed out of town for a few weeks so I won't be able to
>      deal with
>      A  A it any further. Hope someone else has had more luck with this
>      guy.
>      A  A Clearly he's got lots of other stuff for sale including what
>      appears to
>      A  A be two other Panteras.
>      A  A Regards,
>      A  A Emiliano in Albuquerque
>      A  A 5910 L
>      A  A 7205 GTS
>      A  A Sent from my iPhone
>      A  A On May 28, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Cullen McCann
>      <[1][6]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
>
>    A  A wrote:
>    A  A  A FWIW:
>    A  A  A Oklahoma's title 42 process has recently changed. For those who
>    do
>    A  A not
>    A  A  A know, the title 42 process was specifically created so a
>    "mechanic"
>    A  A can
>    A  A  A file a lien against a piece of property for which he is owed
>    value
>    A  A from
>    A  A  A labor. It allows him to assume the value of the property to
>    cover his
>    A  A  A lost debt from non-paying owner.AA  It is not at all synonymous
>    with
>    A  A  A "filing for a lost title".AA  A lost-title process is
>    A  A  A (technically)A appropriate onlyA if the person doing the filing
>    is
>    A  A also
>    A  A  A the person whose name is on the title in the DMV database. So,
>    in
>    A  A other
>    A  A  A words, only a "current" registered owner of a said vehicle can
>    file
>    A  A for
>    A  A  A its lost title. I find it humorous the number of people who
>    list a
>    A  A car
>    A  A  A for sale on the internet and say "you will have to file for a
>    lost
>    A  A  A title"...which cannot be done in Oklahoma if you are not the
>    A  A registered
>    A  A  A owner. As in the case of many vintage cars, they may not have
>    the VIN
>    A  A  A or owner on file. Oddly, the tax commission would even suggest
>    a
>    A  A title
>    A  A  A 42 process...but that was because they knew that was the only
>    method
>    A  A in
>    A  A  A place for obtaining it.
>    A  A  A The "title 42" process recently changed dramatically. People
>    were
>    A  A using
>    A  A  A that process to obtain titles for cars that they purchased
>    without
>    A  A one.
>    A  A  A Which admittedly seems justifiable because there SHOULD be a
>    way to
>    A  A  A legally obtain a title for car purchased honestly without a
>    title.
>    A  A For
>    A  A  A example...a man has a car in a barn or hayfield... his
>    grandfather
>    A  A  A owned it, left it to his son who left it to his son and the
>    title
>    A  A  A hasn't been seen in decades. There honestly should be a way for
>    that
>    A  A  A car to be titled. People were drafting up the title 42
>    paperwork,
>    A  A  A falsifying the names for mechanics and owners and all the
>    A  A requirements
>    A  A  A therein, and getting titles issued for cars they purchased
>    under
>    A  A honest
>    A  A  A conditions. The DMV / Tax Commission finally caught on and
>    changed
>    A  A the
>    A  A  A process in Oklahoma. I haven't seen the new process in detail
>    yet but
>    A  A  A its now a FELONY to falsify your information in such process,
>    and
>    A  A there
>    A  A  A is several checks and balances in place to ensure you don't.
>    Plus
>    A  A even
>    A  A  A the original title 42 process is like an out-of-state
>    purchase...a
>    A  A  A visual vin inspection is required by the title agency.
>    A  A  A Not sure what other states are doing. I even know people are
>    doing
>    A  A the
>    A  A  A title 42 in OTHER states, Then importing the car into their own
>    to
>    A  A  A skirt the process. Moral of the story... Im not saying it cant
>    be
>    A  A done,
>    A  A  A but be VERY clear about what you need to do in order to obtain
>    the
>    A  A  A title, prior to buying.A Do your research first.AA  Some states
>    do
>    A  A allow
>    A  A  A a process for affidavit signing and a court-order issued
>    title... but
>    A  A  A they only time I have seen that work is if its a car that has
>    no
>    A  A  A history on file, good or bad and you have to appear in the
>    county
>    A  A  A courthouse etc.
>    A  A  A Thats about all I know about that.
>    A  A  A Cullen
>    A  A  A On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Julian Kift
>
>    A  A  A <[1][2][7]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>    A  A  A  A AA  A I'm just catching up on list emails so apologies if
>    this has
>    A  A  A  A already
>    A  A  A  A AA  A been answered.
>    A  A  A  A AA  A Has the eBay lsiting text has been amended since it
>    was first
>    A  A  A  A posted?
>    A  A  A  A AA  A I'm damn sure it said the car came out of California
>    or did I
>    A  A  A  A read that
>    A  A  A  A AA  A somewhere on a list response? The ad does state it was
>    A  A  A  A purchased from a
>    A  A  A  A AA  A salvage pool, which may present challenges obtaining
>    even a
>    A  A  A  A salvage
>    A  A  A  A AA  A title without a state inspection to verify it has been
>    A  A  A  A professionally
>    A  A  A  A AA  A repaired to roadworthy condition. The process may be
>    made more
>    A  A  A  A AA  A difficult if it is recorded in an insurance loss
>    datablase.
>    A  A  A  A Obviously
>    A  A  A  A AA  A the repair and inspection wouldn't be viable if
>    purchased for
>    A  A  A  A export
>    A  A  A  A AA  A and intended repair overseas. Check with your local
>    DMV as the
>    A  A  A  A ability
>    A  A  A  A AA  A to retitle a salvage vehicle varies considerably state
>    to
>    A  A  A  A state.
>    A  A  A  A AA  A Julian
>    A  A  A  A AA  A Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 21:25:37 +0200
>
>      A  A  A  A AA  A From: [2][3][8]patrickhals at gmail.com
>      A  A  A  A AA  A To: [3][4][9]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A  A AA  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Project on Ebay
>      A  A  A  A is it possible to get a title ?
>      A  A  A  A The seller answered me it was sold with a Bill of sale
>      only.
>      A  A  A  A Yet, the VIN seems to be 3151, so it should have been
>      titled
>      A  A  A  A somewhere ...
>      A  A  A  A I have not seen that the ZF was included??? Am i wrong ?
>      A  A  A  A If someone goes and inspect it , I'd like to see the
>      report :>))
>      A  A  A  A A French friend of mine is looking for a Pantera body.
>      A  A  A  A It is already priced at 6092 USD... This already seems to
>      be a lot
>      A  A  A  A Will definitely need help for shipping to Antwerp (
>      belgium )
>      A  A  A  A ....should I
>      A  A  A  A win the auction ! ( unlikely )
>      A  A  A  A Pat ( Candy 2862 )
>      A  A  A  A Patrick Hals
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   When I bought the 911 Carrea from a junk yard (in NY) I had to first
   check that it wasn't listed as a stolen car. Then I had to do a search
   for a registered lien holder. Then I had to place ads in publications
   that met certain criteria that I no longer remember. Then I had to send
   a registered letter to the last lien holder informing them that I held
   a mechanics lien on the car. To make a long story short once I
   determined the car wasn't reported as stolen and the lien holder didn't
   reply to my registered letter I took the paper work to Rhode island , I
   had a house in Newport at the time ( which accepted a hand written bill
   of sale) and was issued a Rhode island Registration and lic. plates. I
   then took the RI registration to Virginia beach ( which is where I had
   my legal residence) and they issued a Virginia title. The VA DMV did
   make me sign an affidavit stating that I would cooperate and return the
   VA title if someone appeared in VA with a valid title from another
   state. So as I said earlier it was possible( At the time ) . I never
   had my title challenged and no other owners materialised. In this case
   I paid $10,000 for the car and it was worth $35,000 (Which I collected
   when the Porsche was stolen while I was in NYC) So there needs to be a
   potential for a decent upside to make the whole thing worth while. I
   know there are firms that will guarantee to get you a valid title for a
   fee.
   Boyd

   On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Cullen McCann
   <[1]cmccann1972 at gmail.com> wrote:

     A  A I also asked about the possibility of buying parts from him if
     the car
     A  A does not meet the reserve. Got the same shorter, not-so
     A  A chipperA answer. if anyone on the list winds up with the car,
     and for
     A  A any reason decides to part it out, please keep me in mind. I'm
     a
     A  A serious buyer for a handful of things needed for my project.
     A  A Cullen
     A  A On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
     A  A <[1][2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
     A  A  A AA  A I sent an email regarding the Panteras and asked if
     there was a
     A  A  A story,
     A  A  A AA  A and got a short rude non-answer.AA  I guess not a
     happy story?
     A  A  A AA  A Ken
     A  A  A AA  A
     A  A  A A
     __________________________________________________________________
     A  A  A AA  A From: E B <[2][3]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
     A  A  A AA  A To:
     A  A  A AA  A Cc: DeTomaso Forum <[3][4]detomaso at poca.com>;
     A  A  A "[4][5]patrickhals at gmail.com"
     A  A  A AA  A <[5][6]patrickhals at gmail.com>
     A  A  A AA  A Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 6:52 PM
     A  A  A AA  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Project on Ebay
     A  A  A AA  A Gents,
     A  A  A AA  A I communicated with the seller of this car on three
     separate
     A  A  A occasions.
     A  A  A AA  A He stalled and delayed my attempts to go see the car
     in person
     A  A  A every
     A  A  A AA  A time. I told him I could be interested (up to a
     certain dollar
     A  A  A amount)
     A  A  A AA  A and that there were other interested parties that I
     represent
     A  A  A but he
     A  A  A AA  A didn't pull it together to let me see it.
     A  A  A AA  A I am headed out of town for a few weeks so I won't be
     able to
     A  A  A deal with
     A  A  A AA  A it any further. Hope someone else has had more luck
     with this
     A  A  A guy.
     A  A  A AA  A Clearly he's got lots of other stuff for sale
     including what
     A  A  A appears to
     A  A  A AA  A be two other Panteras.
     A  A  A AA  A Regards,
     A  A  A AA  A Emiliano in Albuquerque
     A  A  A AA  A 5910 L
     A  A  A AA  A 7205 GTS
     A  A  A AA  A Sent from my iPhone
     A  A  A AA  A On May 28, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Cullen McCann
     A  A  A <[1][6][7]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
     A  A AA  A wrote:
     A  A AA  AA  A FWIW:
     A  A AA  AA  A Oklahoma's title 42 process has recently changed. For
     those who
     A  A do
     A  A AA  A not
     A  A AA  AA  A know, the title 42 process was specifically created
     so a
     A  A "mechanic"
     A  A AA  A can
     A  A AA  AA  A file a lien against a piece of property for which he
     is owed
     A  A value
     A  A AA  A from
     A  A AA  AA  A labor. It allows him to assume the value of the
     property to
     A  A cover his
     A  A AA  AA  A lost debt from non-paying owner.AAA  It is not at all
     synonymous
     A  A with
     A  A AA  AA  A "filing for a lost title".AAA  A lost-title process
     is
     A  A AA  AA  A (technically)A appropriate onlyA if the person doing
     the filing
     A  A is
     A  A AA  A also
     A  A AA  AA  A the person whose name is on the title in the DMV
     database. So,
     A  A in
     A  A AA  A other
     A  A AA  AA  A words, only a "current" registered owner of a said
     vehicle can
     A  A file
     A  A AA  A for
     A  A AA  AA  A its lost title. I find it humorous the number of
     people who
     A  A list a
     A  A AA  A car
     A  A AA  AA  A for sale on the internet and say "you will have to
     file for a
     A  A lost
     A  A AA  AA  A title"...which cannot be done in Oklahoma if you are
     not the
     A  A AA  A registered
     A  A AA  AA  A owner. As in the case of many vintage cars, they may
     not have
     A  A the VIN
     A  A AA  AA  A or owner on file. Oddly, the tax commission would
     even suggest
     A  A a
     A  A AA  A title
     A  A AA  AA  A 42 process...but that was because they knew that was
     the only
     A  A method
     A  A AA  A in
     A  A AA  AA  A place for obtaining it.
     A  A AA  AA  A The "title 42" process recently changed dramatically.
     People
     A  A were
     A  A AA  A using
     A  A AA  AA  A that process to obtain titles for cars that they
     purchased
     A  A without
     A  A AA  A one.
     A  A AA  AA  A Which admittedly seems justifiable because there
     SHOULD be a
     A  A way to
     A  A AA  AA  A legally obtain a title for car purchased honestly
     without a
     A  A title.
     A  A AA  A For
     A  A AA  AA  A example...a man has a car in a barn or hayfield...
     his
     A  A grandfather
     A  A AA  AA  A owned it, left it to his son who left it to his son
     and the
     A  A title
     A  A AA  AA  A hasn't been seen in decades. There honestly should be
     a way for
     A  A that
     A  A AA  AA  A car to be titled. People were drafting up the title
     42
     A  A paperwork,
     A  A AA  AA  A falsifying the names for mechanics and owners and all
     the
     A  A AA  A requirements
     A  A AA  AA  A therein, and getting titles issued for cars they
     purchased
     A  A under
     A  A AA  A honest
     A  A AA  AA  A conditions. The DMV / Tax Commission finally caught
     on and
     A  A changed
     A  A AA  A the
     A  A AA  AA  A process in Oklahoma. I haven't seen the new process
     in detail
     A  A yet but
     A  A AA  AA  A its now a FELONY to falsify your information in such
     process,
     A  A and
     A  A AA  A there
     A  A AA  AA  A is several checks and balances in place to ensure you
     don't.
     A  A Plus
     A  A AA  A even
     A  A AA  AA  A the original title 42 process is like an out-of-state
     A  A purchase...a
     A  A AA  AA  A visual vin inspection is required by the title
     agency.
     A  A AA  AA  A Not sure what other states are doing. I even know
     people are
     A  A doing
     A  A AA  A the
     A  A AA  AA  A title 42 in OTHER states, Then importing the car into
     their own
     A  A to
     A  A AA  AA  A skirt the process. Moral of the story... Im not
     saying it cant
     A  A be
     A  A AA  A done,
     A  A AA  AA  A but be VERY clear about what you need to do in order
     to obtain
     A  A the
     A  A AA  AA  A title, prior to buying.A Do your research first.AAA
     Some states
     A  A do
     A  A AA  A allow
     A  A AA  AA  A a process for affidavit signing and a court-order
     issued
     A  A title... but
     A  A AA  AA  A they only time I have seen that work is if its a car
     that has
     A  A no
     A  A AA  AA  A history on file, good or bad and you have to appear
     in the
     A  A county
     A  A AA  AA  A courthouse etc.
     A  A AA  AA  A Thats about all I know about that.
     A  A AA  AA  A Cullen
     A  A AA  AA  A On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Julian Kift
     A  A AA  AA  A <[1][2][7][8]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A I'm just catching up on list emails so
     apologies if
     A  A this has
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A already
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A been answered.
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A Has the eBay lsiting text has been amended
     since it
     A  A was first
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A posted?
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A I'm damn sure it said the car came out of
     California
     A  A or did I
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A read that
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A somewhere on a list response? The ad does
     state it was
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A purchased from a
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A salvage pool, which may present challenges
     obtaining
     A  A even a
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A salvage
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A title without a state inspection to verify
     it has been
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A professionally
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A repaired to roadworthy condition. The
     process may be
     A  A made more
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A difficult if it is recorded in an
     insurance loss
     A  A datablase.
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A Obviously
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A the repair and inspection wouldn't be
     viable if
     A  A purchased for
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A export
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A and intended repair overseas. Check with
     your local
     A  A DMV as the
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A ability
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A to retitle a salvage vehicle varies
     considerably state
     A  A to
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A state.
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A Julian
     A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 21:25:37 +0200
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A From: [2][3][8][9]patrickhals at gmail.com
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A To: [3][4][9][10]detomaso at poca.com
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A AAA  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Project on Ebay
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A is it possible to get a title ?
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A The seller answered me it was sold with a Bill
     of sale
     A  A  A only.
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A Yet, the VIN seems to be 3151, so it should
     have been
     A  A  A titled
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A somewhere ...
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A I have not seen that the ZF was included??? Am
     i wrong ?
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A If someone goes and inspect it , I'd like to
     see the
     A  A  A report :>))
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A A French friend of mine is looking for a
     Pantera body.
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A It is already priced at 6092 USD... This
     already seems to
     A  A  A be a lot
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A Will definitely need help for shipping to
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     A  A  A belgium )
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A ....should I
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A win the auction ! ( unlikely )
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A Pat ( Candy 2862 )
     A  A  A AA  AA  AA  A Patrick Hals
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