[DeTomaso] Original Campy color

[Garth Rodericks]

Hi Asa Jay,

Ford TSB, Bulletin #11, Article 92. 
Service Paint - Magnesium Wheels Color: Argent Silver 
Ditzler Part No.: DX8555


HOWEVER, when I first restored my wheels, I couldn't find that paint from any local supplier - it's an obsolete number with no current cross reference.  However, I've subsequently been told that the old Ditzler color code DX8555 cross references to a new color code: DAR33772 Silver Poly.

Note: The following info is from a Chrysler board as they use the same paint code for various parts.  The Light Textured Argent, part number DX 8555, is obsolete. Medium Textured Argent, part number DNA 8933, can sometimes be found at larger, older Ditzler dealers. Last used in the mid 1970's, it is now all but obsolete. Older Ditzler dealers that have remaining stock can mix this paint for you, but it can also be mixed from currently available paints. Here's how...  

LIGHT ARGENT TEXTURED 
Ingredients for 1 pint (double for quart) 
1/2 ounce DX 204 - Radiance Silver 
1/2 ounce DDL 8568 - Non Smudge Aluminum/aluminum base 
3 1/2 ounces DCA 468 High Performance Clear  

Add 4 ounces of top grade lacquer thinner with drying time according to temperature. Mix thoroughly and pour in 1 pint touch up gun. Use 10 clean 1/4" ball bearings in paint cup to keep the paint mixed. Use three light coats over an existing finish or four to six coats over unfinished parts. This paint runs VERY easily, allow 5-10 minutes between coats.   

MEDIUM ARGENT TEXTURED 
The steps are exactly as above, but add black lacquer to darken. Start with six drops per pint and stir thoroughly, then spray a sample to compare to the original finish. Add a drop at a time until you achieve the correct tint.  Spray these paints at 55-60 lbs. keeping the gun 18-30 inches from the surface. Frequently agitate the mixture to maintain uniform consistency because the Radiance Silver is heavy and will settle out quickly.  Also, Year One sells part #QP323, which is Chrysler rally wheel paint, and part #QP8575, which is the textured light argent silver paint used on Chrysler grilles and rally wheel center caps. Both are sold in quart cans.  

Plastikote Spray Paint
Paint A fellow club member used Plasti-Kote "1001 Bright Silver Metal" in an 11 oz. spray can and reports that it was a good match, and an economical option for repainting original Campys! The label on the can said "Plasti-Kote Body Shop Paint, for Painting Doors, Fenders, Hoods and Other Large Panels on Cars, Trucks & Vans". This paint seems to be very forgiving when it comes to runs and sags, and giving a run a little more spray seems to make it lay down smooth.  

Technique: You need about 60 inches of 6 inch wide aluminum flashing - comes in a roll at your local home improvement store. Unroll the flashing and form a ring that just fits outside the wheel rim and snugly down onto the tire. The wheel needs to be off the car and laying flat on a piece of newspaper or cardboard to keep the floor or driveway from turning silver. Clamp the ring with a pair of vice grips to hold it to the correct diameter. Don1t worry about the flashing over lapping itself that usually helps it hold it's shape. Mask off the valve stem and spray away.  

Note that Plasti-Kote also lists an Argent Silver (#621) on their website, but I have no idea if it's close to the color we need for Campys; it might be worth getting a can to test.  

And here's an article on wheel restoration that everyone should read...  
Restoring Magnesium Campagnolo Wheels the Right Way  
http://www.poca.com/detomaso/2000-06/1205.html 
by Mike Drew and Jack DeRyke


Eastwood Light Argent Silver 
I used Eastwood's Argent Silver then coated with Eastwood semi-gloss clear to facilitate easy cleaning. My Campys looked perfect. Others have misted with Eastwood's Cad Silver between the Argent Silver and the semi-gloss clear for a "perfect" finish, but I found the light argent silver straight from the can looked pretty near perfect, especially when coated with Eastwood Diamond Clear (satin finish). 

FWIW, I spent about $200 on stripper, Zinc Chromate Primer, Eastwood Silver Argent and Diamond Clear paint, and then invested countless hours annealling the wheels and doing all the dirty work.

Powder Coating Wheels at Home
I was very disappointed with the durability of the Eastwood paint (see the 3rd picture in the following link), so I decided to powder coat my wheels, at home.  Check out this thread for my pictures:

http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456/p/1


The color I used was Silver Metallic 30% Gloss (T353-GR06) from Cardinal Paint and Powder. It's a pretty darn close match to the Eastwood Argent Silver (and the original color), but I wouldn't say it's a "perfect" match. Although, close enough for me!  Eastwood offers Argent Silver Powder paint, so theirs might be a perfect match.


In the "close up beauty shot" at the bottom of the first page of the powder coating thread you can see some of the "coated in a plastic finish" look around the cast "campagnolo" name that Paul mentioned in his post.

Cheers!
Garth
#4033 - the Banzai Runner Pantera
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   Hi Asa Jay,
   Ford TSB, Bulletin #11, Article 92.
   Service Paint - Magnesium Wheels Color: Argent Silver
   Ditzler Part No.: DX8555
   HOWEVER, when I first restored my wheels, I couldn't find that paint
   from any local supplier - it's an obsolete number with no current cross
   reference.  However, I've subsequently been told that the old Ditzler
   color code DX8555 cross references to a new color code: DAR33772 Silver
   Poly.
   Note: The following info is from a Chrysler board as they use the same
   paint code for various parts.  The Light Textured Argent, part number
   DX 8555, is obsolete. Medium Textured Argent, part number DNA 8933, can
   sometimes be found at larger, older Ditzler dealers. Last used in the
   mid 1970's, it is now all but obsolete. Older Ditzler dealers that have
   remaining stock can mix this paint for you, but it can also be mixed
   from currently available paints. Here's how...
   LIGHT ARGENT TEXTURED
   Ingredients for 1 pint (double for quart)
   1/2 ounce DX 204 - Radiance Silver
   1/2 ounce DDL 8568 - Non Smudge Aluminum/aluminum base
   3 1/2 ounces DCA 468 High Performance Clear
   Add 4 ounces of top grade lacquer thinner with drying time according to
   temperature. Mix thoroughly and pour in 1 pint touch up gun. Use 10
   clean 1/4" ball bearings in paint cup to keep the paint mixed. Use
   three light coats over an existing finish or four to six coats over
   unfinished parts. This paint runs VERY easily, allow 5-10 minutes
   between coats.
   MEDIUM ARGENT TEXTURED
   The steps are exactly as above, but add black lacquer to darken. Start
   with six drops per pint and stir thoroughly, then spray a sample to
   compare to the original finish. Add a drop at a time until you achieve
   the correct tint.  Spray these paints at 55-60 lbs. keeping the gun
   18-30 inches from the surface. Frequently agitate the mixture to
   maintain uniform consistency because the Radiance Silver is heavy and
   will settle out quickly.  Also, Year One sells part #QP323, which is
   Chrysler rally wheel paint, and part #QP8575, which is the textured
   light argent silver paint used on Chrysler grilles and rally wheel
   center caps. Both are sold in quart cans.
   Plastikote Spray Paint
   Paint A fellow club member used Plasti-Kote "1001 Bright Silver Metal"
   in an 11 oz. spray can and reports that it was a good match, and an
   economical option for repainting original Campys! The label on the can
   said "Plasti-Kote Body Shop Paint, for Painting Doors, Fenders, Hoods
   and Other Large Panels on Cars, Trucks & Vans". This paint seems to be
   very forgiving when it comes to runs and sags, and giving a run a
   little more spray seems to make it lay down smooth.
   Technique: You need about 60 inches of 6 inch wide aluminum flashing -
   comes in a roll at your local home improvement store. Unroll the
   flashing and form a ring that just fits outside the wheel rim and
   snugly down onto the tire. The wheel needs to be off the car and laying
   flat on a piece of newspaper or cardboard to keep the floor or driveway
   from turning silver. Clamp the ring with a pair of vice grips to hold
   it to the correct diameter. Don1t worry about the flashing over lapping
   itself that usually helps it hold it's shape. Mask off the valve stem
   and spray away.
   Note that Plasti-Kote also lists an Argent Silver (#621) on their
   website, but I have no idea if it's close to the color we need for
   Campys; it might be worth getting a can to test.
   And here's an article on wheel restoration that everyone should read...

   Restoring Magnesium Campagnolo Wheels the Right Way
   http://www.poca.com/detomaso/2000-06/1205.html
   by Mike Drew and Jack DeRyke
   Eastwood Light Argent Silver
   I used Eastwood's Argent Silver then coated with Eastwood semi-gloss
   clear to facilitate easy cleaning. My Campys looked perfect. Others
   have misted with Eastwood's Cad Silver between the Argent Silver and
   the semi-gloss clear for a "perfect" finish, but I found the light
   argent silver straight from the can looked pretty near perfect,
   especially when coated with Eastwood Diamond Clear (satin finish).
   FWIW, I spent about $200 on stripper, Zinc Chromate Primer, Eastwood
   Silver Argent and Diamond Clear paint, and then invested countless
   hours annealling the wheels and doing all the dirty work.
   Powder Coating Wheels at Home
   I was very disappointed with the durability of the Eastwood paint (see
   the 3rd picture in the following link), so I decided to powder coat my
   wheels, at home.  Check out this thread for my pictures:
   [1]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456
   /p/1
   The color I used was Silver Metallic 30% Gloss (T353-GR06) from
   Cardinal Paint and Powder. It's a pretty darn close match to the
   Eastwood Argent Silver (and the original color), but I wouldn't say
   it's a "perfect" match. Although, close enough for me!  Eastwood offers
   Argent Silver Powder paint, so theirs might be a perfect match.
   In the "close up beauty shot" at the bottom of the first page of the
   powder coating thread you can see some of the "coated in a plastic
   finish" look around the cast "campagnolo" name that Paul mentioned in
   his post.
   Cheers!
   Garth
   #4033 - the Banzai Runner Pantera

References

   1. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456/p/1