[DeTomaso] Climate Bag

Himes, Terry (397C) terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Tue Feb 3 15:42:12 EST 2015


Ok.  that answered my questions too.  I come home on the weekends and will want to "un-bag & drive!"  But it doesn't sound
practical.   Oh what I wouldn't give for a garage!!


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From: Andy May <andymay24 at gmail.com<mailto:andymay24 at gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:13 PM
To: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>>
Cc: "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>, Terry Himes <Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Climate Bag


Yes, I certainly would not want to be doing it for a weekend - its really designed for seasonal use.

Kind regards

Andy

On Feb 3, 2015 8:10 PM, "Dave Londry" <davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>> wrote:
Thanks Andy.
It sounds as tough it would be practical to un-bag a car for a week and then re-bag it?
That's as long as we usually get to spend at our condo at one time.
dave
(Autumn to me also; Canadian)

On 03/02/2015 12:01 PM, Andy May wrote:
The climate bag that I use is the "PermaBag". I've had it now for 3 winters and have been thoroughly impressed with it.... I clean the car up during Autumn (that would be "fall" to you!), put it in the bag, and it comes out in Spring in exactly the same condition as it went in. Clean, dust free and dry.

Some points to note:

Use - In simple terms you unzip it, spread it on the ground, drive the car on it and zip the thing up over the car. In order to absorb the inherent moisture I stick a portable household dehumidifier in with the car, zip it up with just the cable sticking out of the end of the zip, then run that for a couple of hours before (very quickly) whipping that out and throwing in a big box of silicone crystals then closing it up tight. That may be overkill, but its easy insurance! The little canisters of absorber that come with the bag may be good enough on their own, but as just mentioned, I bought a big box of silicone crystals and they go in there too.

How big a bag? - I bought one that was a size up from that recommended. The main reason for this is that I like to jack the car up on axle stands so the tyres don't get flat spots over the winter. Of course in doing this, the car effectively becomes bigger (taller), so you need the bigger bag!

Re-Use - The silicone crystals and canisters can be "regenerated" in a household oven. It takes almost all day to do that at about 120 deg C (as hot as they will stand - don't ask how I know!), but its a simple enough process - you just have to pick a day that the wife is out of town ;-)

I hope that helps, but if you need to know anything else, just ask.

Kind regards

Andy

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
   Andy/Dave,
   I would be VERY interest in any sort of "climate" bag.  I live on the
   ocean and store my Pantera 1 hr inland.  Which makes it hard to
   arrange conjugal visits.  But I have to deal with an HOA.  Which might
   not like the look of something like a "bag".
   Thanks
   Terry

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes  [cid:59445CC5-BA39-43A7-980D-3BD8DC127723]

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261<tel:%28818%29%20393-6261>

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213<tel:%28818%29%20653-8213>

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147<tel:%28818%29%20393-3147>

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>

   From: Dave Londry <[2]davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>>
   Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:08 AM
   To: "[3]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <[4]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Climate Bag

   Andy
   Is that a PermaBag?
   I was wondering about one for storage at our place in Florida. (salt in
   the sea mist)
   $1000 is cheaper than garage AC/dehumidifier.
   How is the in and out time?
   Any other guidance?
   dave
   On 03/02/2015 9:50 AM, Andy May wrote:

        Hi Jeff,

        Yes it does have the original brakes still on it. The car is in a

        climate bag for the winter but I should have some photos or
   something I

        can supply later this evening.

        Kind regards

        Andy

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   Ok.  that answered my questions too.  I come home on the weekends and
   will want to "un-bag & drive!"  But it doesn't sound
   practical.   Oh what I wouldn't give for a garage!!

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes  [cid:4CFA946E-ABCB-4EA0-939B-BE960BF9EB9E]

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: Andy May <[2]andymay24 at gmail.com>
   Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:13 PM
   To: Dave Londry <[3]davel at emspace.com>
   Cc: "[4]detomaso at poca.com" <[5]detomaso at poca.com>, Terry Himes
   <[6]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Climate Bag

   Yes, I certainly would not want to be doing it for a weekend - its
   really designed for seasonal use.

   Kind regards

   Andy
   On Feb 3, 2015 8:10 PM, "Dave Londry" <[7]davel at emspace.com> wrote:

   Thanks Andy.
   It sounds as tough it would be practical to un-bag a car for a week and
   then re-bag it?
   That's as long as we usually get to spend at our condo at one time.
   dave
   (Autumn to me also; Canadian)
   On 03/02/2015 12:01 PM, Andy May wrote:

   The climate bag that I use is the "PermaBag". I've had it now for 3
   winters and have been thoroughly impressed with it.... I clean the car
   up during Autumn (that would be "fall" to you!), put it in the bag, and
   it comes out in Spring in exactly the same condition as it went in.
   Clean, dust free and dry.
   Some points to note:
   Use - In simple terms you unzip it, spread it on the ground, drive the
   car on it and zip the thing up over the car. In order to absorb the
   inherent moisture I stick a portable household dehumidifier in with the
   car, zip it up with just the cable sticking out of the end of the zip,
   then run that for a couple of hours before (very quickly) whipping that
   out and throwing in a big box of silicone crystals then closing it up
   tight. That may be overkill, but its easy insurance! The little
   canisters of absorber that come with the bag may be good enough on
   their own, but as just mentioned, I bought a big box of silicone
   crystals and they go in there too.
   How big a bag? - I bought one that was a size up from that
   recommended. The main reason for this is that I like to jack the car up
   on axle stands so the tyres don't get flat spots over the winter. Of
   course in doing this, the car effectively becomes bigger (taller), so
   you need the bigger bag!
   Re-Use - The silicone crystals and canisters can be "regenerated" in a
   household oven. It takes almost all day to do that at about 120 deg C
   (as hot as they will stand - don't ask how I know!), but its a simple
   enough process - you just have to pick a day that the wife is out of
   town ;-)
   I hope that helps, but if you need to know anything else, just ask.
   Kind regards
   Andy

   On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
   <[8]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

        Andy/Dave,
        I would be VERY interest in any sort of "climate" bag.  I live on
     the
        ocean and store my Pantera 1 hr inland.  Which makes it hard to
        arrange conjugal visits.  But I have to deal with an HOA.  Which
     might
        not like the look of something like a "bag".
        Thanks
        Terry
        "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
          exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
          to contact us!"
        Terry W. Himes  [cid:59445CC5-BA39-43A7-980D-3BD8DC127723]
        JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
        InSight Sequence Team Lead
        Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
        Phone: [9](818) 393-6261
        Cell:     [10](818) 653-8213
        Fax:     [11](818) 393-3147
        [1][12]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
        From: Dave Londry <[2][13]davel at emspace.com>
        Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:08 AM
        To: "[3][14]detomaso at poca.com" <[4][15]detomaso at poca.com>
        Subject: [DeTomaso] Climate Bag
        Andy
        Is that a PermaBag?
        I was wondering about one for storage at our place in Florida.
     (salt in
        the sea mist)
        $1000 is cheaper than garage AC/dehumidifier.
        How is the in and out time?
        Any other guidance?
        dave
        On 03/02/2015 9:50 AM, Andy May wrote:
             Hi Jeff,
             Yes it does have the original brakes still on it. The car is
     in a
             climate bag for the winter but I should have some photos or
        something I
             can supply later this evening.
             Kind regards
             Andy
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