[DeTomaso] Total Heresy- Ecoboost V6?

[Perry Lindsey]

Corey,
I agree with Michael Short. The 3.5 Ecoboost swap is viable, even if it means taking a bit of weight out of the car in other areas to get to your goal. Our own Jack DeRyke has done a lot of research, and I believe wrote an article (or two) for the POCA newsletter showing several areas where our cars could benefit from a bit of a diet. So with an Ecoboost swap and a bit of due diligence, it might be possible to have a car 300-350 lbs. lighter than a comparable stocker. 
As far as the 3.5 Ecoboost is concerned, I do have a bit of first hand knowledge with the engine. I bought the wife a 2016 Explorer Sport 3 months ago. It is a fantastic vehicle, and in response to this thread, a wonderful power plant. Very smooth, great horsepower and torque and has a good exhaust note, which is important in a Pantera. And there are shops such as Livernois Motorsports that have unlocked the computers, and can really boost the power of this engine package. I am looking into a software package for the wife's Explorer. I rationalized it to her that it will improve fuel economy, along with a bit of an increase in HP, so it is a win-win! I think she saw through that, but is still willing to let me buy the software. Glad I married the right lady!
Best of luck on your project.
Perry Lindsey
 

      From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
 To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:18 PM
 Subject: [DeTomaso] Total Heresy- Ecoboost V6?
   
  To those who cringe at the slightest modification that changes some
  aspect of the Pantera: Stop Reading Now. I have my flame suit on soA
  How about putting the Ecoboost 3.5L V6 in the Pantera?A  Ford just
  released a controls pack for the Ecoboost V6.A  Yes, I'm sure there
  will be hurdles, just like the Coyote. The twin turbos really help at
  high altitude, such as where I'm from.A  The torque and power under the
  curve is where the Ecoboost excels.A  More power under the curve =
  better acceleration.A  I've noticed that just tuning the Ecoboost can
  push horsepower above 400 but the torque is amazing for such a small
  motor.A  Throw in some bigger turbos and better exhaust manifolds and
  you're in the 600 hp range quickly.A
  While looking for a truck to replace my previous Ford, I drove a few
  F150's with the Ecoboost and was always impressed with the power!A
  I've also driven the Taurus SHO with the engine and I was left
  impressed.A  It says a lot that the new Ford GT and Raptor pickups will
  be powered by this engine.
  It definitely goes against one of the Pantera's core concepts of a big
  V8 in a small car. I'm not saying that I think everyone should convert
  their cars to the latest engine.A  I like the Coyote engine a lot and
  have thought long and hard about swapping to that engine.A  I like the
  Cleveland, no doubt, but I like new technology just as much.
  Just thinking as usual.
  Corey

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   Corey,
   I agree with Michael Short. The 3.5 Ecoboost swap is viable, even if it
   means taking a bit of weight out of the car in other areas to get to
   your goal. Our own Jack DeRyke has done a lot of research, and I
   believe wrote an article (or two) for the POCA newsletter showing
   several areas where our cars could benefit from a bit of a diet. So
   with an Ecoboost swap and a bit of due diligence, it might be possible
   to have a car 300-350 lbs. lighter than a comparable stocker.
   As far as the 3.5 Ecoboost is concerned, I do have a bit of first hand
   knowledge with the engine. I bought the wife a 2016 Explorer Sport 3
   months ago. It is a fantastic vehicle, and in response to this thread,
   a wonderful power plant. Very smooth, great horsepower and torque and
   has a good exhaust note, which is important in a Pantera. And there are
   shops such as Livernois Motorsports that have unlocked the computers,
   and can really boost the power of this engine package. I am looking
   into a software package for the wife's Explorer. I rationalized it to
   her that it will improve fuel economy, along with a bit of an increase
   in HP, so it is a win-win! I think she saw through that, but is still
   willing to let me buy the software. Glad I married the right lady!
   Best of luck on your project.
   Perry Lindsey
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:18 PM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Total Heresy- Ecoboost V6?
     To those who cringe at the slightest modification that changes some
     aspect of the Pantera: Stop Reading Now. I have my flame suit on soA
     How about putting the Ecoboost 3.5L V6 in the Pantera?A  Ford just
     released a controls pack for the Ecoboost V6.A  Yes, I'm sure there
     will be hurdles, just like the Coyote. The twin turbos really help at
     high altitude, such as where I'm from.A  The torque and power under
   the
     curve is where the Ecoboost excels.A  More power under the curve =
     better acceleration.A  I've noticed that just tuning the Ecoboost can
     push horsepower above 400 but the torque is amazing for such a small
     motor.A  Throw in some bigger turbos and better exhaust manifolds and
     you're in the 600 hp range quickly.A
     While looking for a truck to replace my previous Ford, I drove a few
     F150's with the Ecoboost and was always impressed with the power!A
     I've also driven the Taurus SHO with the engine and I was left
     impressed.A  It says a lot that the new Ford GT and Raptor pickups
   will
     be powered by this engine.
     It definitely goes against one of the Pantera's core concepts of a
   big
     V8 in a small car. I'm not saying that I think everyone should
   convert
     their cars to the latest engine.A  I like the Coyote engine a lot and
     have thought long and hard about swapping to that engine.A  I like
   the
     Cleveland, no doubt, but I like new technology just as much.
     Just thinking as usual.
     Corey
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