[DeTomaso] ZF polishing
Charles McCall
charlesmccall at gmail.com
Tue Dec 22 14:31:24 EST 2015
That's the stuff I was thinking of...
-----Mensaje original-----
De: "Mark Charlton" <pantera01826 at rogers.com>
Enviado: 22/12/2015 9:42
Para: "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
CC: "Cullen McCann" <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>; "Michael Shortt" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>; "Mike Drew" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; "DeTomaso Forum" <detomaso at poca.com>; "ace595 at hotmail.com" <ace595 at hotmail.com>
Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
The paste I used ages ago was called Rub’n Buff”. Available on Amazon and from Michaels craft stores in North America.
http://www.amaco.com/products/rnb-silver-leaf-carded?taxon_id=324
It works really well but does need to be re-applied avery few years to keep everything looking great. It has a wax component which helps. I found that once the whole case was done that I only really needed to “touch-up” the top surface periodically.
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com
On Dec 22, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> As a poor man's solution, there exists a tube of silver-colored paste that was recommended on the Forum a few years ago. I bought a tube at the time and it cleaned up the ZF quite a bit. I can see what the tube looks like but don't remember what the name was.
>
> It doesn't look like a professionally polished ZF case, but it looks a lot better than stock. And if you drive your Pantera any distance, or in the rain, it's probably more practical
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Cullen McCann
> Sent: martes, 22 de diciembre de 2015 16:45
> To: Michael Shortt
> Cc: Mike Drew; DeTomaso Forum; ace595 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
>
> Michael, you mentioned the aluminum jelly through amazon... my ZF is in
> good working order, but the PO painted it black and now the paint is
> flaking off. Id like the case to be natural aluminum, not polished or
> painted. I also don't want to disassemble the ZF, but it is out of the car
> right now. I've heard that 3M makes some stripping products that are gentle
> enough that the ZF rebuilders use them with good results, that are safe for
> the ZF case.
>
> I can of course test it on an inconspicuous area but would this aluminum
> jelly be the right product for my application?
>
> Cullen
> Yukon, OK
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Cleaning the case is best done with a degreaser first, then either
>> Aluminum Jelly ( amazon sells it ) be careful getting it on any
>> anodized parts, it will discolor them. I fonishing touch is a
>> specialized acidic Wheel cleaner.
>> I have had great success with Eagle One for Mag Wheels that are porous
>> and unpolished.
>> After this three step treatment and a little brush action, your ZF will
>> look almost white.
>> Then spray it with WD40.
>>
>> Michael Shortt
>>
>> On Dec 22, 2015 12:20 AM, "Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
>> <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>
>> A A In a message dated 12/21/15 11:44:19 AM, [2]ace595 at hotmail.com
>> writes:
>> A A A ?ZF polishing
>> A A A Can anyone give me the approx cost of having my ZF polished?
>> A A A Is there someone in the northeast
>> A A A That does this
>> A A A Thanks
>> A A Tom,
>> A A It's horrendously expensive, because it's normally only done at
>> the
>> A A same time that the gearbox is being rebuilt.A As far as I
>> know, those
>> A A who specialize in such things will not consider polishing a
>> complete
>> A A gearbox, although I don't know the specific reason for this.
>> A A Instead, while you're getting your $5000 gearbox overhaul, if
>> you want
>> A A to spend an extra $1500 or so, they will arrange to have the
>> bare cases
>> A A polished.A It's something that is normally subcontracted out;
>> the
>> A A pieces are either given to a polishing company, or the shop
>> hires a
>> A A temporary worker who does it on-site.A It's a very
>> time-consuming
>> A A thing, taking many, many hours to do properly.
>> A A I don't know of anybody doing ZF work in the northeast; Guy
>> Trigaux in
>> A A Simpsonville, SC is the nearest ZF expert to you, I think.A
>> He's not
>> A A much for unnecessary bling, and he may not offer polishing
>> service.
>> A A In short, if your gearbox was falling apart and needed to be
>> rebuilt,
>> A A polishing is something you might consider while you're at it,
>> but I
>> A A would never advocate taking apart a good gearbox just to shine
>> it up.
>> A A It takes a LOT of maintenance to keep it looking decent; if you
>> are
>> A A going to drive your car at all (especially in the northeast
>> where the
>> A A climate is often far from ideal), I'd urge you to just leave it
>> alone.
>> A A Lloyd Butfoy advocates cleaning the case, then spraying it with
>> WD-40
>> A A which both makes it look good, and is easy to clean when it
>> gets dirty.
>> A A Mike
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That's the stuff I was thinking of...
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De: [1]Mark Charlton
Enviado: 22/12/2015 9:42
Para: [2]Charles McCall
CC: [3]Cullen McCann; [4]Michael Shortt; [5]Mike Drew; [6]DeTomaso
Forum; [7]ace595 at hotmail.com
Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
The paste I used ages ago was called Rub'n Buff". Available on Amazon
and from Michaels craft stores in North America.
http://www.amaco.com/products/rnb-silver-leaf-carded?taxon_id=324
It works really well but does need to be re-applied avery few years to
keep everything looking great. It has a wax component which helps. I
found that once the whole case was done that I only really needed to
"touch-up" the top surface periodically.
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com
On Dec 22, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
wrote:
> As a poor man's solution, there exists a tube of silver-colored paste
that was recommended on the Forum a few years ago. I bought a tube at
the time and it cleaned up the ZF quite a bit. I can see what the tube
looks like but don't remember what the name was.
>
> It doesn't look like a professionally polished ZF case, but it looks
a lot better than stock. And if you drive your Pantera any distance, or
in the rain, it's probably more practical
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Cullen
McCann
> Sent: martes, 22 de diciembre de 2015 16:45
> To: Michael Shortt
> Cc: Mike Drew; DeTomaso Forum; ace595 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
>
> Michael, you mentioned the aluminum jelly through amazon... my ZF is
in
> good working order, but the PO painted it black and now the paint is
> flaking off. Id like the case to be natural aluminum, not polished or
> painted. I also don't want to disassemble the ZF, but it is out of
the car
> right now. I've heard that 3M makes some stripping products that are
gentle
> enough that the ZF rebuilders use them with good results, that are
safe for
> the ZF case.
>
> I can of course test it on an inconspicuous area but would this
aluminum
> jelly be the right product for my application?
>
> Cullen
> Yukon, OK
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Michael Shortt
<michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Cleaning the case is best done with a degreaser first, then either
>> Aluminum Jelly ( amazon sells it ) be careful getting it on any
>> anodized parts, it will discolor them. I fonishing touch is a
>> specialized acidic Wheel cleaner.
>> I have had great success with Eagle One for Mag Wheels that are
porous
>> and unpolished.
>> After this three step treatment and a little brush action, your ZF
will
>> look almost white.
>> Then spray it with WD40.
>>
>> Michael Shortt
>>
>> On Dec 22, 2015 12:20 AM, "Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
>> <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>
>> A A In a message dated 12/21/15 11:44:19 AM,
[2]ace595 at hotmail.com
>> writes:
>> A A A ?ZF polishing
>> A A A Can anyone give me the approx cost of having my ZF
polished?
>> A A A Is there someone in the northeast
>> A A A That does this
>> A A A Thanks
>> A A Tom,
>> A A It's horrendously expensive, because it's normally only
done at
>> the
>> A A same time that the gearbox is being rebuilt.A As far as I
>> know, those
>> A A who specialize in such things will not consider polishing a
>> complete
>> A A gearbox, although I don't know the specific reason for
this.
>> A A Instead, while you're getting your $5000 gearbox overhaul,
if
>> you want
>> A A to spend an extra $1500 or so, they will arrange to have
the
>> bare cases
>> A A polished.A It's something that is normally subcontracted
out;
>> the
>> A A pieces are either given to a polishing company, or the shop
>> hires a
>> A A temporary worker who does it on-site.A It's a very
>> time-consuming
>> A A thing, taking many, many hours to do properly.
>> A A I don't know of anybody doing ZF work in the northeast; Guy
>> Trigaux in
>> A A Simpsonville, SC is the nearest ZF expert to you, I think.A
>> He's not
>> A A much for unnecessary bling, and he may not offer polishing
>> service.
>> A A In short, if your gearbox was falling apart and needed to
be
>> rebuilt,
>> A A polishing is something you might consider while you're at
it,
>> but I
>> A A would never advocate taking apart a good gearbox just to
shine
>> it up.
>> A A It takes a LOT of maintenance to keep it looking decent; if
you
>> are
>> A A going to drive your car at all (especially in the northeast
>> where the
>> A A climate is often far from ideal), I'd urge you to just
leave it
>> alone.
>> A A Lloyd Butfoy advocates cleaning the case, then spraying it
with
>> WD-40
>> A A which both makes it look good, and is easy to clean when it
>> gets dirty.
>> A A Mike
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