[DeTomaso] whats old is new again

[JEFFREY COBB]

Jim is correct about car buying turn over and why waste money on making it last long, we want to sell a newer model! 
Now days better materials, cad design with finite stress analysis, much better oils and lighter weights make the engines of today so superior.

In 33 years, my six mechanic repair shop would do a rebuild every month. We haven't done one in two or so years now.  Not because cost of rebuilds is too high but because they don't die like they used to.
Ford inline sixes would rod knock at 40,000 miles, Chevys would plug up like fudge with Quaker State crap oil then burn up and most consumers wanted something new so it was no big deal when it died.
Frugality was not part of the consumer based equation. Plus USA engines were basically shit compared to Germans and Japs.
USA engines really changed a few years back but still selling was more important than high mileage.
Engineering monies were redirected to tv ad times.

My thoughts, 
Jeff

Jeff Cobb- I pad
W-225-343-7525
C-225-907-4514

Jeff Cobb Auto Works
1316 S. Acadian Thruway
Baton Rouge, La.
70806

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On Dec 7, 2015, at 12:29 AM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

>   I'm not sure it's fair to compare engines of the 70's to more modern
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>   That 30 wt oil we used back then was crap compared to what is used now,
>   and the American tradition was to buy a new, fairly cheap car every
>   year or two.  So why waste the engineering and build quality to make an
>   engine last 200K?
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>   Jim
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>   To: Daniel C Jones <daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>
>   Cc: POCA list <detomaso at poca.com>
>   Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2015 8:19 pm
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
>   Our Honda just turned 235,000 miles from a 1 litre, 3 cylinder engine.
>   Nothing has been done to the engine except for normal maintenance. I
>   changed the spark plugs at something like 200,000, just because.
>   Why is it not a big deal for Hondas to run forever, but hitting 100,000
>   in
>   a 70A^1s/80A^1s American V-8 was a major milestone?
>   IA^1m not bashing American engines. IA^1m really what makes the Hondas
>   run so
>   long. Is it because of overhead cams, better materials, closer
>   tolerances?
>   On 12/6/15, 12:10 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Daniel C Jones"
>   <[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
>   [2]daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> When an engine fails or becomes very worn, it is usually pulled
>   from
>> the vehicle and scrapped. Ford wants to change that by utilizing a
>> high-tech plasma process to remanufacture broken engines.
>> When my dad got back from Germany serving as a medic in WWII, he was
>> assigned to motor pool duty.A The motor pool had a very well equipped
>> machine shop.A One of the cars, IRC a Pontiac sedan with a flat head
>> straight eight, had been rebuilt several times.A After a few
>   re-bores,
>> they reached the limit of the block casting.A Rather than scrapping
>> the block, they metal sprayed/plasma welded it back to standard bore
>> and rebuilt it again.A IIRC, it had logged something like 500,000
>> miles.
>> Dan Jones
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