[DeTomaso] whats old is new again

Mon Dec 7 01:29:21 EST 2015

I'm not sure it's fair to compare engines of the 70's to more modern ones.

That 30 wt oil we used back then was crap compared to what is used now, and the American tradition was to buy a new, fairly cheap car every year or two.  So why waste the engineering and build quality to make an engine last 200K?

Jim 

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From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: Daniel C Jones <daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2015 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again

Our Honda just turned 235,000 miles from a 1 litre, 3 cylinder engine.
Nothing has been done to the engine except for normal maintenance.  I
changed the spark plugs at something like 200,000, just because.

Why is it not a big deal for Hondas to run forever, but hitting 100,000 in
a 70¹s/80¹s American V-8 was a major milestone?

I¹m not bashing American engines.  I¹m really what makes the Hondas run so
long.  Is it because of overhead cams, better materials, closer tolerances?

On 12/6/15, 12:10 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Daniel C Jones"
<detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com> wrote:

>   > When an engine fails or becomes very worn, it is usually pulled from
>   the vehicle and scrapped. Ford wants to change that by utilizing a
>  high-tech plasma process to remanufacture broken engines.
>   When my dad got back from Germany serving as a medic in WWII, he was
>   assigned to motor pool duty.A  The motor pool had a very well equipped
>   machine shop.A  One of the cars, IRC a Pontiac sedan with a flat head
>   straight eight, had been rebuilt several times.A  After a few re-bores,
>   they reached the limit of the block casting.A  Rather than scrapping
>   the block, they metal sprayed/plasma welded it back to standard bore
>   and rebuilt it again.A  IIRC, it had logged something like 500,000
>   miles.
>   Dan Jones
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   I'm not sure it's fair to compare engines of the 70's to more modern
   ones.

   That 30 wt oil we used back then was crap compared to what is used now,
   and the American tradition was to buy a new, fairly cheap car every
   year or two.  So why waste the engineering and build quality to make an
   engine last 200K?

   Jim

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   To: Daniel C Jones <daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>
   Cc: POCA list <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2015 8:19 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
   Our Honda just turned 235,000 miles from a 1 litre, 3 cylinder engine.
   Nothing has been done to the engine except for normal maintenance. I
   changed the spark plugs at something like 200,000, just because.
   Why is it not a big deal for Hondas to run forever, but hitting 100,000
   in
   a 70A^1s/80A^1s American V-8 was a major milestone?
   IA^1m not bashing American engines. IA^1m really what makes the Hondas
   run so
   long. Is it because of overhead cams, better materials, closer
   tolerances?
   On 12/6/15, 12:10 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Daniel C Jones"
   <[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
   [2]daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > > When an engine fails or becomes very worn, it is usually pulled
   from
   > the vehicle and scrapped. Ford wants to change that by utilizing a
   > high-tech plasma process to remanufacture broken engines.
   > When my dad got back from Germany serving as a medic in WWII, he was
   > assigned to motor pool duty.A The motor pool had a very well equipped
   > machine shop.A One of the cars, IRC a Pontiac sedan with a flat head
   > straight eight, had been rebuilt several times.A After a few
   re-bores,
   > they reached the limit of the block casting.A Rather than scrapping
   > the block, they metal sprayed/plasma welded it back to standard bore
   > and rebuilt it again.A IIRC, it had logged something like 500,000
   > miles.
   > Dan Jones
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