[DeTomaso] Fwd: POCA fun rally dates

Larry Stock larrys at panteraparts.com
Sun Dec 6 19:20:44 EST 2015


Flight? You can almost walk there from where you live. Put some gas in the
tank and just drive there.


On 12/6/15, 4:09 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of marshallgsmith"
<detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>   ...and I already booked my flight in March!
>
>   Thanks Mike!!
>
>   Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>   -------- Original message --------
>   From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>   Date: 12/06/2015 10:11 AM (GMT-08:00)
>   To: detomaso at poca.com
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: POCA fun rally dates
>   I wish I could blame my error on the damn iPhone autocorrect!!!
>   Yes, the Fun Rally is 11-15 MAY not March!!!!
>   Thanks Bill!!!
>   Mike
>   Sent from my iPhone
>   Begin forwarded message:
>   > From: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
>   > Date: December 5, 2015, 19:59:56 PST
>   > To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
>   >
>   > Mike edit your response please
>   >  No hope in hell I can drive to LV In MARCH. Try May.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Cheers,
>   >
>   > Bill Moore
>   > Incendium Supply
>   > Calgary
>   >
>   >
>   > -------- Original message --------
>   > From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>   > Date: 2015-12-05 8:51 PM (GMT-07:00)
>   > To: marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>   > Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
>   >
>   > Marshall,
>   >
>   > Info is in the poca newsletter. 11-15 March at the plaza in Las
>   Vegas.  See you there!
>   >
>   > Mike
>   >
>   > Sent from my iPhone
>   >
>   > On Dec 5, 2015, at 19:19, marshallgsmith
>   <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>   >
>   > >   does anyone know the dates of the fun rally next year?
>   > >
>   > >   Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>   > >
>   > >   -------- Original message --------
>   > >   From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
>   > >   Date: 12/05/2015 3:49 PM (GMT-08:00)
>   > >   To: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
>   > >   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>   > >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
>   > >   Think of it this way and it is marketing genius.  Most times,
>   when an
>   > >   engine goes in a plain old non-exotic, it is well past its prime
>   and
>   > >   the
>   > >   decision to replace the car is easier. Provide a cost-effective
>   reason
>   > >   keep
>   > >   it and buy more "Original Ford Parts" to keep the rest of the car
>   > >   running.
>   > >   In 60 years we could be a 21st century Cuba with no American cars
>   after
>   > >   2016.  Brilliant!
>   > >   On Dec 5, 2015 4:04 PM, "Guido deTomaso"
>   <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
>   > >   wrote:
>   > >>   Unsleeved aluminum motorcycle cylinders can be re-plated by
>   third
>   > >   party
>   > >>   vendors, though I have no direct experience with that.
>   > >>   Be interesting to see if the process described below will
>   > >   eventually
>   > >>   compete with ordinary sleeving of an iron block.
>   > >>   GD
>   > >
>   __________________________________________________________________
>   > >>
>   > >>   From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>   > >>   To: detomaso at poca.com
>   > >>   Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 9:01 AM
>   > >>   Subject: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
>   > >>     When an engine fails or becomes very worn, it is usually
>   pulled
>   > >   from
>   > >>     the vehicle and scrapped. Ford wants to change that by
>   utilizing
>   > >   a
>   > >>     high-tech plasma process to remanufacture broken engines. The
>   > >   process
>   > >>     reduces carbon emissions by about half when compared to making
>   a
>   > >   new
>   > >>     engine to replace the old one, and results in a like-new
>   engine
>   > >>   block.
>   > >>     .                            [1]When an engine fails or
>   becomes
>   > >   very
>   > >>     worn, it is usually pulled from the vehicle and ...
>   > >>     .                            [2]When witnessed first-hand, the
>   > >   plasma
>   > >>     coating process looks similar to spray painting, but with a
>   > >   bright
>   > >>   ...
>   > >>     .                            [3]The process for Ford involves
>   > >   taking
>   > >>     worn, high-mileage engines and using plasma coatings to
>   > >   refurbish and
>   > >>     ...
>   > >>     .                            [4]The process being used was
>   > >   originally
>   > >>     developed for engine performance enhancement
>   > >>     The goal is to extend the performance of a vehicle by
>   > >   lengthening its
>   > >>     lifespan, thus reducing its overall environmental footprint.
>   It
>   > >   ties
>   > >>   in
>   > >>     with other research being done by Ford to include [5]vegetable
>   > >   fibers
>   > >>     in plastics and soy fibers in foam and cloth.
>   > >>     The process was originally developed for engine performance
>   > >>     enhancement, says Juergen Wesemann, manager of Vehicle
>   > >   Technologies
>   > >>   and
>   > >>     Materials, Ford Research and Advanced Engineering. The Plasma
>   > >>     Transferred Wired Arc (PTWA) thermal spray process applies a
>   > >   coat to
>   > >>   an
>   > >>     engine block which helps bring it back to original condition.
>   > >   This
>   > >>     removes the need for additional heavy parts.
>   > >>     [6][cid:[1]image005.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570]
>   > >>     PTWA works by basically creating "paint" out of metallic
>   > >   materials. A
>   > >>     wire feedstock is first fed into a highly-charged cathode.
>   This
>   > >>     atomizes the feedstock, which is then sprayed onto a surface
>   > >   with
>   > >>     forced gas. The high kinetic energy of the particles means
>   that
>   > >   they
>   > >>     flatten on impact with the surface of the target. They then
>   > >   quickly
>   > >>     harden. This has the effect of both depositing even amounts of
>   > >>   material
>   > >>     onto a surface and of "leveling" the surface by naturally
>   > >   filling in
>   > >>     pits and gouges.
>   > >>     In most PTWA processes, varied materials will be used to build
>   > >>     multi-layer coatings. When witnessed first hand, the plasma
>   > >   coating
>   > >>     process looks similar to spray painting, but with a bright
>   light
>   > >>   where
>   > >>     the paint emerges.
>   > >>     The plasma coating process itself is not new. It's been a key
>   > >>     ingredient for making aluminum engine blocks that can
>   withstand
>   > >>     repeated pressure without a cast iron sleeve in the cylinder
>   > >   bores.
>   > >>   In
>   > >>     the automotive manufacturing process, PTWA has become a common
>   > >>   element.
>   > >>     High-end vehicles such as the Nissan GT-R and Ford Mustang
>   GT500
>   > >>   Shelby
>   > >>     utilize plasma coating to improve friction surfaces and reduce
>   > >>   weights
>   > >>     by adding strength to parts made of lighter-weight materials.
>   > >>     [7][cid:[2]image006.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570]
>   > >>     For remanufacturing, pioneering use of plasma coating began
>   with
>   > >>     Caterpillar and others in the diesel engine realm, using it to
>   > >>     refurbish high-mileage or high-use engine blocks that would
>   > >   otherwise
>   > >>     be very expensive to replace. PTWA can be used on cast iron,
>   > >>   aluminum,
>   > >>     or nearly any other metal or alloy.
>   > >>     The process for Ford is to take worn, high-mileage engines and
>   > >   use
>   > >>     plasma coatings to refurbish and repair the engine block,
>   > >   especially
>   > >>     the cylinders, as the first step towards creating a like-new
>   > >   engine
>   > >>     that can be used again.
>   > >>     Larry - Cleveland
>   > >>   References
>   > >>     1.
>   [3]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#1
>   > >>     2.
>   [4]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#2
>   > >>     3.
>   [5]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>   > >>     4.
>   [6]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#4
>   > >>     5.
>   > >
>   [7]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-flex-2010-wheat-straw-reinforced-plastic/
>   > >>   13419/
>   > >>     6.
>   [8]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>   > >>     7.
>   [9]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#5
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>   > >> References
>   > >>
>   > >>   1. mailto:image005.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570
>   > >>   2. mailto:image006.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570
>   > >>   3. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#1
>   > >>   4. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#2
>   > >>   5. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>   > >>   6. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#4
>   > >>   7.
>   > >
>   http://www.gizmag.com/ford-flex-2010-wheat-straw-reinforced-plastic/134
>   > >   19/
>   > >>   8. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>   > >>   9. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#5
>   > >>  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   > >>  11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>   > >      Think of it this way and it is marketing genius.A  Most times,
>   when
>   > >   an
>   > >      engine goes in a plain old non-exotic, it is well past its
>   prime and
>   > >      the decision to replace the car is easier. Provide a
>   cost-effective
>   > >      reason keep it and buy more "Original Ford Parts" to keep the
>   rest
>   > >   of
>   > >      the car running.
>   > >      In 60 years we could be a 21st century Cuba with no American
>   cars
>   > >   after
>   > >      2016.A  Brilliant!
>   > >      On Dec 5, 2015 4:04 PM, "Guido deTomaso"
>   > >      <[1]guido_detomaso at prodigy.net> wrote:
>   > >        A  A Unsleeved aluminum motorcycle cylinders can be
>   re-plated by
>   > >        third party
>   > >        A  A vendors, though I have no direct experience with that.
>   > >        A  A Be interesting to see if the process described below
>   will
>   > >        eventually
>   > >        A  A compete with ordinary sleeving of an iron block.
>   > >        A  A GD
>   > >        A  A
>   > >        A
>   > >
>   __________________________________________________________________
>   > >        A  A From: Larry - Ohio Time <[2]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>   > >        A  A To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
>   > >        A  A Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 9:01 AM
>   > >        A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
>   > >        A  A  A When an engine fails or becomes very worn, it is
>   usually
>   > >        pulled from
>   > >        A  A  A the vehicle and scrapped. Ford wants to change that
>   by
>   > >        utilizing a
>   > >        A  A  A high-tech plasma process to remanufacture broken
>   engines.
>   > >        The process
>   > >        A  A  A reduces carbon emissions by about half when compared
>   to
>   > >        making a new
>   > >        A  A  A engine to replace the old one, and results in a
>   like-new
>   > >        engine
>   > >        A  A block.
>   > >        A  A  A .A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  [1]When
>   an
>   > >   engine
>   > >        fails or becomes very
>   > >        A  A  A worn, it is usually pulled from the vehicle and ...
>   > >        A  A  A .A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  [2]When
>   > >   witnessed
>   > >        first-hand, the plasma
>   > >        A  A  A coating process looks similar to spray painting, but
>   with
>   > >   a
>   > >        bright
>   > >        A  A ...
>   > >        A  A  A .A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  [3]The
>   process
>   > >        for Ford involves taking
>   > >        A  A  A worn, high-mileage engines and using plasma coatings
>   to
>   > >        refurbish and
>   > >        A  A  A ...
>   > >        A  A  A .A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  [4]The
>   process
>   > >        being used was originally
>   > >        A  A  A developed for engine performance enhancement
>   > >        A  A  A The goal is to extend the performance of a vehicle
>   by
>   > >        lengthening its
>   > >        A  A  A lifespan, thus reducing its overall environmental
>   > >   footprint.
>   > >        It ties
>   > >        A  A in
>   > >        A  A  A with other research being done by Ford to include
>   > >        [5]vegetable fibers
>   > >        A  A  A in plastics and soy fibers in foam and cloth.
>   > >        A  A  A The process was originally developed for engine
>   > >   performance
>   > >        A  A  A enhancement, says Juergen Wesemann, manager of
>   Vehicle
>   > >        Technologies
>   > >        A  A and
>   > >        A  A  A Materials, Ford Research and Advanced Engineering.
>   The
>   > >        Plasma
>   > >        A  A  A Transferred Wired Arc (PTW
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