[DeTomaso] whats old is new again

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Sat Dec 5 22:51:27 EST 2015


Marshall,

Info is in the poca newsletter. 11-15 March at the plaza in Las Vegas.  See you there!

Mike

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On Dec 5, 2015, at 19:19, marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>   does anyone know the dates of the fun rally next year?
> 
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>   -------- Original message --------
>   From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
>   Date: 12/05/2015 3:49 PM (GMT-08:00)
>   To: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
>   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
>   Think of it this way and it is marketing genius.  Most times, when an
>   engine goes in a plain old non-exotic, it is well past its prime and
>   the
>   decision to replace the car is easier. Provide a cost-effective reason
>   keep
>   it and buy more "Original Ford Parts" to keep the rest of the car
>   running.
>   In 60 years we could be a 21st century Cuba with no American cars after
>   2016.  Brilliant!
>   On Dec 5, 2015 4:04 PM, "Guido deTomaso" <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
>   wrote:
>>   Unsleeved aluminum motorcycle cylinders can be re-plated by third
>   party
>>   vendors, though I have no direct experience with that.
>>   Be interesting to see if the process described below will
>   eventually
>>   compete with ordinary sleeving of an iron block.
>>   GD
>   __________________________________________________________________
>> 
>>   From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>>   To: detomaso at poca.com
>>   Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 9:01 AM
>>   Subject: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
>>     When an engine fails or becomes very worn, it is usually pulled
>   from
>>     the vehicle and scrapped. Ford wants to change that by utilizing
>   a
>>     high-tech plasma process to remanufacture broken engines. The
>   process
>>     reduces carbon emissions by about half when compared to making a
>   new
>>     engine to replace the old one, and results in a like-new engine
>>   block.
>>     .                            [1]When an engine fails or becomes
>   very
>>     worn, it is usually pulled from the vehicle and ...
>>     .                            [2]When witnessed first-hand, the
>   plasma
>>     coating process looks similar to spray painting, but with a
>   bright
>>   ...
>>     .                            [3]The process for Ford involves
>   taking
>>     worn, high-mileage engines and using plasma coatings to
>   refurbish and
>>     ...
>>     .                            [4]The process being used was
>   originally
>>     developed for engine performance enhancement
>>     The goal is to extend the performance of a vehicle by
>   lengthening its
>>     lifespan, thus reducing its overall environmental footprint. It
>   ties
>>   in
>>     with other research being done by Ford to include [5]vegetable
>   fibers
>>     in plastics and soy fibers in foam and cloth.
>>     The process was originally developed for engine performance
>>     enhancement, says Juergen Wesemann, manager of Vehicle
>   Technologies
>>   and
>>     Materials, Ford Research and Advanced Engineering. The Plasma
>>     Transferred Wired Arc (PTWA) thermal spray process applies a
>   coat to
>>   an
>>     engine block which helps bring it back to original condition.
>   This
>>     removes the need for additional heavy parts.
>>     [6][cid:[1]image005.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570]
>>     PTWA works by basically creating "paint" out of metallic
>   materials. A
>>     wire feedstock is first fed into a highly-charged cathode. This
>>     atomizes the feedstock, which is then sprayed onto a surface
>   with
>>     forced gas. The high kinetic energy of the particles means that
>   they
>>     flatten on impact with the surface of the target. They then
>   quickly
>>     harden. This has the effect of both depositing even amounts of
>>   material
>>     onto a surface and of "leveling" the surface by naturally
>   filling in
>>     pits and gouges.
>>     In most PTWA processes, varied materials will be used to build
>>     multi-layer coatings. When witnessed first hand, the plasma
>   coating
>>     process looks similar to spray painting, but with a bright light
>>   where
>>     the paint emerges.
>>     The plasma coating process itself is not new. It's been a key
>>     ingredient for making aluminum engine blocks that can withstand
>>     repeated pressure without a cast iron sleeve in the cylinder
>   bores.
>>   In
>>     the automotive manufacturing process, PTWA has become a common
>>   element.
>>     High-end vehicles such as the Nissan GT-R and Ford Mustang GT500
>>   Shelby
>>     utilize plasma coating to improve friction surfaces and reduce
>>   weights
>>     by adding strength to parts made of lighter-weight materials.
>>     [7][cid:[2]image006.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570]
>>     For remanufacturing, pioneering use of plasma coating began with
>>     Caterpillar and others in the diesel engine realm, using it to
>>     refurbish high-mileage or high-use engine blocks that would
>   otherwise
>>     be very expensive to replace. PTWA can be used on cast iron,
>>   aluminum,
>>     or nearly any other metal or alloy.
>>     The process for Ford is to take worn, high-mileage engines and
>   use
>>     plasma coatings to refurbish and repair the engine block,
>   especially
>>     the cylinders, as the first step towards creating a like-new
>   engine
>>     that can be used again.
>>     Larry - Cleveland
>>   References
>>     1. [3]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#1
>>     2. [4]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#2
>>     3. [5]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>>     4. [6]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#4
>>     5.
>   [7]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-flex-2010-wheat-straw-reinforced-plastic/
>>   13419/
>>     6. [8]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>>     7. [9]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#5
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>> References
>> 
>>   1. mailto:image005.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570
>>   2. mailto:image006.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570
>>   3. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#1
>>   4. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#2
>>   5. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>>   6. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#4
>>   7.
>   http://www.gizmag.com/ford-flex-2010-wheat-straw-reinforced-plastic/134
>   19/
>>   8. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>>   9. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#5
>>  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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>      Think of it this way and it is marketing genius.A  Most times, when
>   an
>      engine goes in a plain old non-exotic, it is well past its prime and
>      the decision to replace the car is easier. Provide a cost-effective
>      reason keep it and buy more "Original Ford Parts" to keep the rest
>   of
>      the car running.
>      In 60 years we could be a 21st century Cuba with no American cars
>   after
>      2016.A  Brilliant!
>      On Dec 5, 2015 4:04 PM, "Guido deTomaso"
>      <[1]guido_detomaso at prodigy.net> wrote:
>        A  A Unsleeved aluminum motorcycle cylinders can be re-plated by
>        third party
>        A  A vendors, though I have no direct experience with that.
>        A  A Be interesting to see if the process described below will
>        eventually
>        A  A compete with ordinary sleeving of an iron block.
>        A  A GD
>        A  A
>        A
>   __________________________________________________________________
>        A  A From: Larry - Ohio Time <[2]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>        A  A To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
>        A  A Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 9:01 AM
>        A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] whats old is new again
>        A  A  A When an engine fails or becomes very worn, it is usually
>        pulled from
>        A  A  A the vehicle and scrapped. Ford wants to change that by
>        utilizing a
>        A  A  A high-tech plasma process to remanufacture broken engines.
>        The process
>        A  A  A reduces carbon emissions by about half when compared to
>        making a new
>        A  A  A engine to replace the old one, and results in a like-new
>        engine
>        A  A block.
>        A  A  A .A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  [1]When an
>   engine
>        fails or becomes very
>        A  A  A worn, it is usually pulled from the vehicle and ...
>        A  A  A .A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  [2]When
>   witnessed
>        first-hand, the plasma
>        A  A  A coating process looks similar to spray painting, but with
>   a
>        bright
>        A  A ...
>        A  A  A .A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  [3]The process
>        for Ford involves taking
>        A  A  A worn, high-mileage engines and using plasma coatings to
>        refurbish and
>        A  A  A ...
>        A  A  A .A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  [4]The process
>        being used was originally
>        A  A  A developed for engine performance enhancement
>        A  A  A The goal is to extend the performance of a vehicle by
>        lengthening its
>        A  A  A lifespan, thus reducing its overall environmental
>   footprint.
>        It ties
>        A  A in
>        A  A  A with other research being done by Ford to include
>        [5]vegetable fibers
>        A  A  A in plastics and soy fibers in foam and cloth.
>        A  A  A The process was originally developed for engine
>   performance
>        A  A  A enhancement, says Juergen Wesemann, manager of Vehicle
>        Technologies
>        A  A and
>        A  A  A Materials, Ford Research and Advanced Engineering. The
>        Plasma
>        A  A  A Transferred Wired Arc (PTWA) thermal spray process applies
>   a
>        coat to
>        A  A an
>        A  A  A engine block which helps bring it back to original
>        condition. This
>        A  A  A removes the need for additional heavy parts.
>        A  A  A [6][cid:[1]image005.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570]
>        A  A  A PTWA works by basically creating "paint" out of metallic
>        materials. A
>        A  A  A wire feedstock is first fed into a highly-charged cathode.
>        This
>        A  A  A atomizes the feedstock, which is then sprayed onto a
>   surface
>        with
>        A  A  A forced gas. The high kinetic energy of the particles means
>        that they
>        A  A  A flatten on impact with the surface of the target. They
>   then
>        quickly
>        A  A  A harden. This has the effect of both depositing even
>   amounts
>        of
>        A  A material
>        A  A  A onto a surface and of "leveling" the surface by naturally
>        filling in
>        A  A  A pits and gouges.
>        A  A  A In most PTWA processes, varied materials will be used to
>        build
>        A  A  A multi-layer coatings. When witnessed first hand, the
>   plasma
>        coating
>        A  A  A process looks similar to spray painting, but with a bright
>        light
>        A  A where
>        A  A  A the paint emerges.
>        A  A  A The plasma coating process itself is not new. It's been a
>        key
>        A  A  A ingredient for making aluminum engine blocks that can
>        withstand
>        A  A  A repeated pressure without a cast iron sleeve in the
>   cylinder
>        bores.
>        A  A In
>        A  A  A the automotive manufacturing process, PTWA has become a
>        common
>        A  A element.
>        A  A  A High-end vehicles such as the Nissan GT-R and Ford Mustang
>        GT500
>        A  A Shelby
>        A  A  A utilize plasma coating to improve friction surfaces and
>        reduce
>        A  A weights
>        A  A  A by adding strength to parts made of lighter-weight
>        materials.
>        A  A  A [7][cid:[2]image006.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570]
>        A  A  A For remanufacturing, pioneering use of plasma coating
>   began
>        with
>        A  A  A Caterpillar and others in the diesel engine realm, using
>   it
>        to
>        A  A  A refurbish high-mileage or high-use engine blocks that
>   would
>        otherwise
>        A  A  A be very expensive to replace. PTWA can be used on cast
>   iron,
>        A  A aluminum,
>        A  A  A or nearly any other metal or alloy.
>        A  A  A The process for Ford is to take worn, high-mileage engines
>        and use
>        A  A  A plasma coatings to refurbish and repair the engine block,
>        especially
>        A  A  A the cylinders, as the first step towards creating a
>   like-new
>        engine
>        A  A  A that can be used again.
>        A  A  A Larry - Cleveland
>        A  A References
>        A  A  A 1.
>        [3][4]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#1
>        A  A  A 2.
>        [4][5]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#2
>        A  A  A 3.
>        [5][6]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>        A  A  A 4.
>        [6][7]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#4
>        A  A  A 5.
>        A
>        A
>   [7][8]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-flex-2010-wheat-straw-reinforced-
>        plastic/
>        A  A 13419/
>        A  A  A 6.
>        [8][9]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>        A  A  A 7.
>        [9][10]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#5
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>        A  A 1. mailto:[13]image005.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570
>        A  A 2. mailto:[14]image006.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570
>        A  A 3.
>        [15]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#1
>        A  A 4.
>        [16]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#2
>        A  A 5.
>        [17]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>        A  A 6.
>        [18]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#4
>        A  A 7.
> 
>   [19]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-flex-2010-wheat-straw-reinforced-plas
>        tic/13419/
>        A  A 8.
>        [20]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>        A  A 9.
>        [21]http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#5
>        A  10. mailto:[22]DeTomaso at poca.com
>        A  11. [23]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>      1. mailto:guido_detomaso at prodigy.net
>      2. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>      3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>      4. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#1
>      5. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#2
>      6. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>      7. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#4
>      8.
>   http://www.gizmag.com/ford-flex-2010-wheat-straw-reinforced-plastic/
>      9. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>     10. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#5
>     11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>     12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>     13. mailto:image005.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570
>     14. mailto:image006.jpg at 01D12E8B.7CA36570
>     15. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#1
>     16. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#2
>     17. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>     18. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#4
>     19.
>   http://www.gizmag.com/ford-flex-2010-wheat-straw-reinforced-plastic/134
>   19/
>     20. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#3
>     21. http://www.gizmag.com/ford-plasma-engine/40728/pictures#5
>     22. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>     23. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>     24. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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