[DeTomaso] Insurance Coverage Limits

Michael Shortt michaelsavga at gmail.com
Wed Apr 29 19:12:01 EDT 2015


My annual premium is less than 1/2 of 1% of the value of my car, prudent
because I live in a state where 1 out of 7 motorists (according to the
police) are uninsured and 1/2 of the remaining cars have min. coverage with
25,000 limits.

I'd say that if $400 is gonna kill you, maybe you shouldn't own a Pantera.

Michael
On Apr 29, 2015 6:48 PM, "John Taphorn" <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:

>    I am a little surprised about the opinion that seems to be frequently
>    vocalized about insuring your one's car to the market value.  Insurance
>    companies are happy to fully insure responsible drivers.  Of course
>    that is how they make money.
>    I believe that I could have purchased a second Pantera with the
>    premiums that I have paid over my 35 years of ownership.  My point is
>    that if you you have other assets, it is prudent to self insure part of
>    the car.  The risk to you is only on damages exceeding the valuation.
>    Only insure risks that you can't afford.
>    I get it if the car represents all your savings and you couldn't afford
>    to replace in the unlikely event it was totaled.  Otherwise, not so
>    much.
>    As a financial planner, I cringe every time I hear someone espouse it
>    is financially wise to call their insurance agent because their car has
>    gone up in value.  If you got wealth, probably not the prudent path.
>    JT
>
>    On 4/29/2015 9:49 AM, Charles McCall wrote:
>
>    Don't know, but my classic car insurance company in Spain made a
>    similar request. I sent them ads to justify increasing the value on my
>    policy. After a few, erm, debates they sent an appraiser to look at my
>    car and I'm waiting for his report. In my case, I have more interest in
>    being properly insured than they do, so I did some of the legwork to
>    make sure it was right.
>    A
>    I'd be really happy if I could have a policy that says "if my car blows
>    up, I just want another one in the same condition, not more, not less".
>    I don't want to make money or lose money, just make sure that my
>    investment is covered.
>
>    On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Julian Kift
>    [1]<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>      A  A Send them a link to the Hagerty valuation page, that is made up
>      of a
>      A  A cross section of sales, or a copy of the relevant page from
>      latest
>      A  A Glass's Classic car value guide.
>      A  A The question is why do you have to do the legwork and become
>      their risk
>      A  A underwriter? They should be aware of the current market values,
>      A  A unless you are trying to convince them you have a 1:10 or so
>      that is
>      A  A worth signiificantly more?
>      A  A Julian
>      A  A From: [[2]2]michaelsavga at gmail.com
>      A  A Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:23:11 -0400
>      A  A To: [[3]3]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Insurance Coverage Limits
>      Greetings all,
>      In light of the rapidly rising values of our cars, we need to
>      establish a
>      database of recent sales for comps to supply to carriers.
>      My agency Barrett-Jackson ( AIG underwrites it ) is asking.
>      If any or all of you can send links to recent sales at any location,
>      private sale, auction, dealer.
>      Please help,
>      I'll share all the info.
>      Michael Shortt
>      --
>      Michael L. Shortt
>      Savannah, Georgia
>      [4]www.michaelshortt.com
>      [[4]5]michael at michaelshortt.com
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   My annual premium is less than 1/2 of 1% of the value of my car,
   prudent because I live in a state where 1 out of 7 motorists (according
   to the police) are uninsured and 1/2 of the remaining cars have min.
   coverage with 25,000 limits.

   I'd say that if $400 is gonna kill you, maybe you shouldn't own a
   Pantera.

   Michael

   On Apr 29, 2015 6:48 PM, "John Taphorn" <[1]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
   wrote:

     A  A I am a little surprised about the opinion that seems to be
     frequently
     A  A vocalized about insuring your one's car to the market value.A
     Insurance
     A  A companies are happy to fully insure responsible drivers.A  Of
     course
     A  A that is how they make money.
     A  A I believe that I could have purchased a second Pantera with the
     A  A premiums that I have paid over my 35 years of ownership.A  My
     point is
     A  A that if you you have other assets, it is prudent to self insure
     part of
     A  A the car.A  The risk to you is only on damages exceeding the
     valuation.
     A  A Only insure risks that you can't afford.
     A  A I get it if the car represents all your savings and you
     couldn't afford
     A  A to replace in the unlikely event it was totaled.A  Otherwise,
     not so
     A  A much.
     A  A As a financial planner, I cringe every time I hear someone
     espouse it
     A  A is financially wise to call their insurance agent because their
     car has
     A  A gone up in value.A  If you got wealth, probably not the prudent
     path.
     A  A JT
     A  A On 4/29/2015 9:49 AM, Charles McCall wrote:
     A  A Don't know, but my classic car insurance company in Spain made
     a
     A  A similar request. I sent them ads to justify increasing the
     value on my
     A  A policy. After a few, erm, debates they sent an appraiser to
     look at my
     A  A car and I'm waiting for his report. In my case, I have more
     interest in
     A  A being properly insured than they do, so I did some of the
     legwork to
     A  A make sure it was right.
     A  A A
     A  A I'd be really happy if I could have a policy that says "if my
     car blows
     A  A up, I just want another one in the same condition, not more,
     not less".
     A  A I don't want to make money or lose money, just make sure that
     my
     A  A investment is covered.
     A  A On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Julian Kift
     A  A [1]<[1][2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
     A  A  A AA  A Send them a link to the Hagerty valuation page, that
     is made up
     A  A  A of a
     A  A  A AA  A cross section of sales, or a copy of the relevant page
     from
     A  A  A latest
     A  A  A AA  A Glass's Classic car value guide.
     A  A  A AA  A The question is why do you have to do the legwork and
     become
     A  A  A their risk
     A  A  A AA  A underwriter? They should be aware of the current
     market values,
     A  A  A AA  A unless you are trying to convince them you have a 1:10
     or so
     A  A  A that is
     A  A  A AA  A worth signiificantly more?
     A  A  A AA  A Julian
     A  A  A AA  A From: [[2]2][3]michaelsavga at gmail.com
     A  A  A AA  A Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:23:11 -0400
     A  A  A AA  A To: [[3]3][4]detomaso at poca.com
     A  A  A AA  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Insurance Coverage Limits
     A  A  A Greetings all,
     A  A  A In light of the rapidly rising values of our cars, we need
     to
     A  A  A establish a
     A  A  A database of recent sales for comps to supply to carriers.
     A  A  A My agency Barrett-Jackson ( AIG underwrites it ) is asking.
     A  A  A If any or all of you can send links to recent sales at any
     location,
     A  A  A private sale, auction, dealer.
     A  A  A Please help,
     A  A  A I'll share all the info.
     A  A  A Michael Shortt
     A  A  A --
     A  A  A Michael L. Shortt
     A  A  A Savannah, Georgia
     A  A  A [4][5]www.michaelshortt.com
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