[DeTomaso] Is a "sugar scoop" functional

[jderyke at aol.com]

John is correct Our whole decklid is a 'sugar-scoop' design while the small spoiler is known as a Boxer-slat. On that Ferrari with a similar design, the carb intakes were near the trailing edge of the decklid, and the same high-speed swirl that fouls up a Pantera's rear mounted A/C starved the Ferrari's carbs. Such a 'sunshade' over the rear window opening on a Pantera does little, although if you have a rear wing or a NASCAR-type deck-spoiler, a 'Boxer-Slat' may possibly direct more air onto it for some extra downforce. This is a guess- no real studies have ever been done and the effects probably won't show up below maybe 170 mph where a Pantera with a front air dam starts getting tail-light. 
 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Is a "sugar scoop" functional


   Ken
   I believe the rear deck-lid is referred to being the "sugar scoop" as
   it is shaped like one if you imagine a handle extending from it toward
   the front of the car through the roof.  I suspect that you are
   inquiring about the sugar scoop spoiler that is mounted on the upper
   side of the deck-lid behind the roof.  As I understand it, this idea
   was lifted from Ferrari.  It was believed that the 512BB, which was
   also shared a sugar scoop designed rear deck lid, suffered from a lack
   of air to the Webers at higher speeds.  Ferrari believed that adding
   the spoiler in that location caused the air to tumble and improve flow
   to the carbs.  I do not know whether the 512BB has the same airflow up
   through the engine bay or if the 512BB runs a belly pan.  Regardless,
   it is assumed by most that the spoiler has little effect on a Pantera
   because the flow of air is so strong up through the engine bay.
   JT

   On 11/2/2014 7:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote:

   I received one with my 73, but was never a fan.  Do they do anything?
   Thanks,
   Ken


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   John is correct Our whole decklid is a 'sugar-scoop' design while the
   small spoiler is known as a Boxer-slat. On that Ferrari with a similar
   design, the carb intakes were near the trailing edge of the decklid,
   and the same high-speed swirl that fouls up a Pantera's rear mounted
   A/C starved the Ferrari's carbs. Such a 'sunshade' over the rear window
   opening on a Pantera does little, although if you have a rear wing or a
   NASCAR-type deck-spoiler, a 'Boxer-Slat' may possibly direct more air
   onto it for some extra downforce. This is a guess- no real studies have
   ever been done and the effects probably won't show up below maybe 170
   mph where a Pantera with a front air dam starts getting tail-light.

   -----Original Message-----
   From: John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
   To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 6:39 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Is a "sugar scoop" functional
   Ken
   I believe the rear deck-lid is referred to being the "sugar scoop" as
   it is shaped like one if you imagine a handle extending from it toward
   the front of the car through the roof.  I suspect that you are
   inquiring about the sugar scoop spoiler that is mounted on the upper
   side of the deck-lid behind the roof.  As I understand it, this idea
   was lifted from Ferrari.  It was believed that the 512BB, which was
   also shared a sugar scoop designed rear deck lid, suffered from a lack
   of air to the Webers at higher speeds.  Ferrari believed that adding
   the spoiler in that location caused the air to tumble and improve flow
   to the carbs.  I do not know whether the 512BB has the same airflow up
   through the engine bay or if the 512BB runs a belly pan.  Regardless,
   it is assumed by most that the spoiler has little effect on a Pantera
   because the flow of air is so strong up through the engine bay.
   JT

   On 11/2/2014 7:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote:

   I received one with my 73, but was never a fan.  Do they do anything?
   Thanks,
   Ken


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