[DeTomaso] ZF oil -- the right choice
Christopher Kimball
chrisvkimball at msn.com
Sun May 11 17:19:33 EDT 2014
I found the redline ns at a local Baxters, so it looks like I'm set.
Thanks for all your help.
Could I change the zf oil myself? Sure, except I have no time to do so between now and when I'm leaving. My mechanic has the car now and is fixing things he's finding wrong with it, such as a portion of the brake line which was pitted with rust to the point of being dangerous. He replaced about 40" with new line. These are things I would never try to do myself.
The seats have just been recovered in black leather with dark green leather inserts and look great. Too bad I'm not able to update the whole car! That will have to wait until my two sons finish University...
Looking forward to the drive, and the Rally!
Chris
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Subject: ZF oil -- the right choice
Here is a recent post from Les Gray which basically answers the question forever:
The Red Line oil NS designation means that in this particular oil there is NO
additive added to reduce the clutch chatter in most limited slip differentials.
Normally this additive is a good thing and almost mandatory in cars like the
Corvette which has a fairly high degree of limited slip lock up.
Our cars have a two fold issues with these extra slippery additives. Number
one is our diff uses a rather low limited slip lock up so this extra slip
actually decreases what little lock up we have. Number two is this additive will
inhibit our synchro rings ability to do its job and in extreem cases will burn
up the synchro rings and the towers on the gears costing big bucks.
I've rebuilt ZF's since the late 1970's and have replaced dozens of synchro
rings & gear sets due to the use of these additives.
As Jack DeRyke says "your mileage may vary" !!!!
Leslie A. Gray
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Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Have you checked your ZF juice lately?
What is the difference between the Penzoil and the 75W90 NS GL-5 Gear Oil Redline product? Is one considered better than the other?
Thanks again,
Chris
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> From: bill at incendium.com
> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 03:00:59 +0000
>
> Chris look for this
> Pennzoil stock #4096 SAE 80W-90 GL-5 gearplus multi purpose gear lubricant
>
> Bill Moore
> Incendium Supply
> Calgary
>
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I found the redline ns at a local Baxters, so it looks like I'm set.
Thanks for all your help.
Could I change the zf oil myself? Sure, except I have no time to do so
between now and when I'm leaving. My mechanic has the car now and is
fixing things he's finding wrong with it, such as a portion of the
brake line which was pitted with rust to the point of being dangerous.
He replaced about 40" with new line. These are things I would never
try to do myself.
The seats have just been recovered in black leather with dark green
leather inserts and look great. Too bad I'm not able to update the
whole car! That will have to wait until my two sons finish
University...
Looking forward to the drive, and the Rally!
Chris
Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: [1]Pantdino
Sent: 5/10/2014 9:07 PM
To: [2]chrisvkimball at msn.com; [3]bill at incendium.com;
[4]detomaso-bounces at poca.com; [5]charlesmccall at gmail.com;
[6]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: ZF oil -- the right choice
Here is a recent post from Les Gray which basically answers the
question forever:
The Red Line oil NS designation means that in this particular oil there
is NO
additive added to reduce the clutch chatter in most limited slip
differentials.
Normally this additive is a good thing and almost mandatory in cars
like the
Corvette which has a fairly high degree of limited slip lock up.
Our cars have a two fold issues with these extra slippery
additives. Number
one is our diff uses a rather low limited slip lock up so this extra
slip
actually decreases what little lock up we have. Number two is this
additive will
inhibit our synchro rings ability to do its job and in extreem cases
will burn
up the synchro rings and the towers on the gears costing big bucks.
I've rebuilt ZF's since the late 1970's and have replaced dozens of
synchro
rings & gear sets due to the use of these additives.
As Jack DeRyke says "your mileage may vary" !!!!
Leslie A. Gray
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From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
To: bill <bill at incendium.com>; DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com>;
Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; charlesmccall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>;
Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sat, May 10, 2014 8:07 pm
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Have you checked your ZF juice lately?
What is the difference between the Penzoil and the 75W90 NS GL-5 Gear
Oil Redline product? Is one considered better than the other?
Thanks again,
Chris
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Have you checked your ZF juice lately?
> To: [7]chrisvkimball at msn.com; [8]detomaso-bounces at poca.com;
[9]pantdino at aol.com; [10]charlesmccall at gmail.com; [11]detomaso at poca.com
> From: [12]bill at incendium.com
> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 03:00:59 +0000
>
> Chris look for this
> Pennzoil stock #4096 SAE 80W-90 GL-5 gearplus multi purpose gear
lubricant
>
> Bill Moore
> Incendium Supply
> Calgary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Kimball <[13]chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> Sender: "DeTomaso" <[14]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>Date: Sat, 10 May
2014 19:57:32
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