[DeTomaso] replacement seats

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From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, May 2, 2014 8:41 PM
To: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com<mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com>>
Cc: "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

No I wouldn't do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Lamborgini, or maserati.A
Pantera isn't  in the same league as a vintage Ferrari , Lambo or Maserati
  and will never be in the same league. (excluding the crappy
maseratiswhich I wouldn't want to own modified or not)  My 73
Pantera isn't a 7 figure car. many people  modify their panteras  without
having a detrimental effect on their value.  I bought my Pantera to drive.
I value it but I value my life more. I have a simple philosophy don't risk
what I can't afford to lose. So I work to make my Pantera as safe as is
practical for a 40 year+ old car and I try not to push it beyond it's
limits or mine.
Let me ask you a question. If you had a vintage jaguar and were going to
drive it in a track event would you install seat belts? Would you wear a
modern helmet or an old fashioned leather one , or perhaps none at all?
Just how far do you feel keeping it original should go when your life is
involved?


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com<mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com>> wrote:

I don't really care how you prep your car. It's your car. But, would you
do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Masarati, or Lamborgini. Just saying.
Gotta stir the pot

From: ollerabmut at msn.com<mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com>
To: boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 20:14:56 -0700

CC: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

you going to put in air bags as well

Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:07:46 -0400
From: boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>
To: ollerabmut at msn.com<mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com>
CC: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
Recarostyle seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or
FIA sanctioned. I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't
effective at maintaining the six point harness in the proper position . In
the event of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a
properly positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in the
correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through the
seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious injury
or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of the stock
seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car shows then it is
essential that you optimize your car to provide the maximum in safety .
Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in fact prefer the look of a
recaro style seat).  If I wanted a Pantera solely for a car collection I
would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that not only provide a more
stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat) but one that is
also FIAapproved ( like an authentic
Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
Boyd


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com<mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com>> wrote:

> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
> pantera  just looks wrong. Just an opinion
>
> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>; detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >
> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >
> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or through a
> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and order
> > local.
> >
> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >
> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and a
> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >
> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >
> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was wondering if
> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the Recaro
> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some much
> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the "Fixed
> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I know
> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end cars
> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> > > Panteras or other cars?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Boyd
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   Good Point!   "Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead

   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead

   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

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   From: Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
   Date: Friday, May 2, 2014 8:41 PM
   To: Mark Tumbarello <[3]ollerabmut at msn.com>
   Cc: "[4]detomaso at poca.com" <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

   No I wouldn't do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Lamborgini, or
   maserati.A
   Pantera isn't  in the same league as a vintage Ferrari , Lambo or
   Maserati
     and will never be in the same league. (excluding the crappy
   maseratiswhich I wouldn't want to own modified or not)  My 73
   Pantera isn't a 7 figure car. many people  modify their
   panteras  without
   having a detrimental effect on their value.  I bought my Pantera to
   drive.
   I value it but I value my life more. I have a simple philosophy don't
   risk
   what I can't afford to lose. So I work to make my Pantera as safe as is
   practical for a 40 year+ old car and I try not to push it beyond it's
   limits or mine.
   Let me ask you a question. If you had a vintage jaguar and were going
   to
   drive it in a track event would you install seat belts? Would you wear
   a
   modern helmet or an old fashioned leather one , or perhaps none at all?
   Just how far do you feel keeping it original should go when your life
   is
   involved?
   On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Mark Tumbarello
   <[6]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:

   I don't really care how you prep your car. It's your car. But, would
   you

   do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Masarati, or Lamborgini. Just saying.

   Gotta stir the pot

   From: [7]ollerabmut at msn.com

   To: [8]boyd411 at gmail.com

   Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 20:14:56 -0700

   CC: [9]detomaso at poca.com

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

   you going to put in air bags as well

   Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:07:46 -0400

   From: [10]boyd411 at gmail.com

   To: [11]ollerabmut at msn.com

   CC: [12]detomaso at poca.com

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

   Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different

   fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have

   Recarostyle seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or

   FIA sanctioned. I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat
   isn't

   effective at maintaining the six point harness in the proper position .
   In

   the event of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a

   properly positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in
   the

   correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through
   the

   seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper

   positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious
   injury

   or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of the
   stock

   seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car shows then it
   is

   essential that you optimize your car to provide the maximum in safety .

   Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in fact prefer the look
   of a

   recaro style seat).  If I wanted a Pantera solely for a car collection
   I

   would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that not only provide a more

   stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat) but one that is

   also FIAapproved ( like an authentic

   Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.

   Boyd

   On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello
   <[13]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:

   > You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would
   take

   > place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in
   a

   > pantera  just looks wrong. Just an opinion

   >

   > > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400

   > > From: [14]will.kooiman at gmail.com

   > > To: [15]boyd411 at gmail.com; [16]detomaso at poca.com

   >

   > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

   > >

   > > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and
   they

   > > look proper in the Pantera.

   > >

   > > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.

   > >

   > > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
   through a

   > > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and
   order

   > > local.

   > >

   > > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.

   > >

   > > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails
   and a

   > > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.

   > >

   > > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.

   > >

   > > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[17]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

   > >

   > > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
   wondering if

   > > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats
   that

   > > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a
   fixed

   > > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
   Recaro

   > > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
   much

   > > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats

   > > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
   "Fixed

   > > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
   know

   > > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high
   end cars

   > > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their

   > > > Panteras or other cars?

   > > > Thanks,

   > > > Boyd

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