[DeTomaso] replacement seats
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Sat May 3 00:23:44 EDT 2014
You took the words right out of my mouth. And in this case it's apparently
acceptable to install big brakes, which necessitate big wheels, harnesses
(incorrectly installed) Race tires but don't change the seats!
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net>wrote:
> I don't get why some people make such a big deal about what another person
> does with THEIR car. To each their own!!!
>
> If everyone's car was an exact copy of each other's car, it would be
> pretty boring...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Mark
> Tumbarello
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:58 PM
> To: Boyd Casey
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> I would do what ever the sanctioned body required me to do to track the
> thing if I wanted to track it, For safety. Modern seats in
> my XKE, probably not.
>
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:41:17 -0400
> From: boyd411 at gmail.com
> To: ollerabmut at msn.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> No I wouldn't do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Lamborgini, or maserati.A
> Pantera isn't in the same league as a vintage Ferrari , Lambo or Maserati
> and will never be in the same league. (excluding the crappy
> maseratiswhich I wouldn't want to own modified or not) My 73
> Pantera isn't a 7 figure car. many people modify their panteras without
> having a detrimental effect on their value. I bought my Pantera to drive.
> I value it but I value my life more. I have a simple philosophy don't risk
> what I can't afford to lose. So I work to make my Pantera as safe as is
> practical for a 40 year+ old car and I try not to push it beyond it's
> limits or mine.
> Let me ask you a question. If you had a vintage jaguar and were going to
> drive it in a track event would you install seat belts? Would you wear a
> modern helmet or an old fashioned leather one , or perhaps none at all?
> Just how far do you feel keeping it original should go when your life is
> involved?
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I don't really care how you prep your car. It's your car. But, would you
> > do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Masarati, or Lamborgini. Just saying.
> > Gotta stir the pot
> >
> > From: ollerabmut at msn.com
> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 20:14:56 -0700
> >
> > CC: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > you going to put in air bags as well
> >
> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:07:46 -0400
> > From: boyd411 at gmail.com
> > To: ollerabmut at msn.com
> > CC: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
> > fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
> > Recarostyle seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or
> > FIA sanctioned. I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't
> > effective at maintaining the six point harness in the proper position .
> In
> > the event of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a
> > properly positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in
> the
> > correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through the
> > seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
> > positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious
> injury
> > or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of the
> stock
> > seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car shows then it
> is
> > essential that you optimize your car to provide the maximum in safety .
> > Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in fact prefer the look
> of a
> > recaro style seat). If I wanted a Pantera solely for a car collection I
> > would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that not only provide a more
> > stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat) but one that is
> > also FIAapproved ( like an authentic
> > Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
> > > place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
> > > pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> > > > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> > > > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> > > >
> > > > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
> > > > look proper in the Pantera.
> > > >
> > > > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> > > >
> > > > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
> through a
> > > > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and
> order
> > > > local.
> > > >
> > > > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> > > >
> > > > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and
> a
> > > > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> > > >
> > > > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
> wondering if
> > > > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
> > > > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
> > > > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
> Recaro
> > > > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
> much
> > > > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> > > > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
> "Fixed
> > > > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
> know
> > > > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end
> cars
> > > > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> > > > > Panteras or other cars?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Boyd
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You took the words right out of my mouth. And in this case it's
apparently acceptable to install big brakes, which necessitate big
wheels, harnesses (incorrectly installed) Race tires but don't change
the seats!
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Scott Bell
<[1]scott at saccrestorations.net> wrote:
I don't get why some people make such a big deal about what another
person does with THEIR car. To each their own!!!
If everyone's car was an exact copy of each other's car, it would be
pretty boring...
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Tumbarello
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:58 PM
To: Boyd Casey
Cc: [3]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
I would do what ever the sanctioned body required me to do to track the
thing if I wanted to track it, For safety. Modern seats in
my XKE, probably not.
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:41:17 -0400
From: [4]boyd411 at gmail.com
To: [5]ollerabmut at msn.com
CC: [6]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
No I wouldn't do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Lamborgini, or
maserati.A
Pantera isn't A in the same league as a vintage Ferrari , Lambo or
Maserati
A and will never be in the same league. (excluding the crappy
maseratiswhich I wouldn't want to own modified or not) A My 73
Pantera isn't a 7 figure car. many people A modify their panteras
A without
having a detrimental effect on their value. A I bought my Pantera to
drive.
I value it but I value my life more. I have a simple philosophy don't
risk
what I can't afford to lose. So I work to make my Pantera as safe as is
practical for a 40 year+ old car and I try not to push it beyond it's
limits or mine.
Let me ask you a question. If you had a vintage jaguar and were going
to
drive it in a track event would you install seat belts? Would you wear
a
modern helmet or an old fashioned leather one , or perhaps none at all?
Just how far do you feel keeping it original should go when your life
is
involved?
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Mark Tumbarello
<[7]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
> I don't really care how you prep your car. It's your car. But, would
you
> do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Masarati, or Lamborgini. Just
saying.
> Gotta stir the pot
>
> From: [8]ollerabmut at msn.com
> To: [9]boyd411 at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 20:14:56 -0700
>
> CC: [10]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> you going to put in air bags as well
>
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:07:46 -0400
> From: [11]boyd411 at gmail.com
> To: [12]ollerabmut at msn.com
> CC: [13]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
> Recarostyle seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or
> FIA sanctioned. I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat
isn't
> effective at maintaining the six point harness in the proper position
. In
> the event of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a
> properly positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed
in the
> correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through
the
> seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
> positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious
injury
> or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of the
stock
> seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car shows then
it is
> essential that you optimize your car to provide the maximum in safety
.
> Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in fact prefer the
look of a
> recaro style seat). A If I wanted a Pantera solely for a car
collection I
> would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that not only provide a
more
> stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat) but one that is
> also FIAapproved ( like an authentic
> Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello
<[14]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would
take
> > place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat
in a
> > pantera A just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> > > From: [15]will.kooiman at gmail.com
> > > To: [16]boyd411 at gmail.com; [17]detomaso at poca.com
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> > >
> > > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and
they
> > > look proper in the Pantera.
> > >
> > > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> > >
> > > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
through a
> > > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out,
and order
> > > local.
> > >
> > > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> > >
> > > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails
and a
> > > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> > >
> > > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> > >
> > > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[18]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
wondering if
> > > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats
that
> > > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a
fixed
> > > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
Recaro
> > > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add
some much
> > > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> > > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
"Fixed
> > > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a
helmet.I know
> > > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high
end cars
> > > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> > > > Panteras or other cars?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Boyd
> > > >_______________________________________________
> > > >
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