[DeTomaso] NPC interesting article

Mon Mar 31 10:15:18 EDT 2014

It just made me think - they are selling, and I see LOTS of the new Mustangs, Camaros, Dodge (whatever they are) on the roads.  So, if they aren't bought/driven by gray-headed old dudes, or girls, then it must be the younger men!!!  So, I'll amend my statement and say that if they have "car interest" now, they will have car interest in 20-30 years; and I think that will include ALL cars.  Different guys may like different "old" cars, but they will all still love "old cars!"  E.g., I was born in 1941, but love most all the cars of the 30's, and lots of the older ones.  I'm not sure about the '50 models Plymouths!    ----BILL Lewis
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 22:44:08 -0400
> From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> To: cengles at cox.net; bflesland at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC interesting article
> 
> I want to a birthday party last night (not mine).
> 
> These guys were in their early 30's.
> 
> There was a new Challenger and a new Camaro there, and the owners loved
> their cars.  They were talking about other cars too.  I don't remember
> details except that they had 4-bangers with nitrous.
> 
> There are a lot of car shows down here (Ft. Lauderdale / Miami).  There
> are as many young guys as there are old.
> 
> My point is that as far as I can tell, the interest is still there.  Cars
> aren't as cool as they once were, but the fault isn't the lack of interest.
> 
> I don't have an answer, though.  Maybe it's a lack of relevance.  When
> Billy Joe Jim Bob wins a NASCAR race, is he driving a Ford?  A Chevy?  If
> a Toyota wins, do you want to head out to your Toyota dealer and buy a
> Prius?  What about F1?  Cool to watch, but did they really win in a
> Ferrari or an Audi?
> 
> Or maybe it's because all the safety gadgets remove the soul of the car.
> There was a 1961 Starliner at the last cruise night.  That's a pretty car,
> but impossible to build with today's regulations.  You can't even get
> close.  A car that like that needs lots of chrome.
> 
> When the 5.0 Mustangs took off, it was fueled by low prices, great
> performance, drag racing, and hot rodding.
> 
> I personally think the article is wrong.  Young people still like their
> cars, but auto makers do not know how to reach them.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/30/14 3:13 PM, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> >Dear Bjoern,
> >
> >
> >                It is a typo.   It should read:  "It is a problem for the
> >car makers *and* it is a problem for car clubs from BMWCCA to POCA."
> >
> >
> >                            My apologies for the confusion,  Chuck Engles
> > 
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> >bflesland at gmail.com
> >Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:27 PM
> >To: detomaso at poca.com
> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC interesting article
> >
> >What do you mean by saying:
> >It is a problem for the car
> >makers, but it is a problem for car clubs from BMWCCA to POCA.
> >Cheers Bjoern
> >
> >> Den 30. mars 2014 kl. 15:32 skrev "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>:
> >> 
> >> It is a problem for the car
> >> makers, but it is a problem for car clubs from BMWCCA to POCA.
> >
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   It just made me think - they are selling, and I see LOTS of the new
   Mustangs, Camaros, Dodge (whatever they are) on the roads.  So, if they
   aren't bought/driven by gray-headed old dudes, or girls, then it must
   be the younger men!!!  So, I'll amend my statement and say that if they
   have "car interest" now, they will have car interest in 20-30 years;
   and I think that will include ALL cars.  Different guys may like
   different "old" cars, but they will all still love "old cars!"  E.g., I
   was born in 1941, but love most all the cars of the 30's, and lots of
   the older ones.  I'm not sure about the '50 models Plymouths!
   ----BILL Lewis
   > Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 22:44:08 -0400
   > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > To: cengles at cox.net; bflesland at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC interesting article
   >
   > I want to a birthday party last night (not mine).
   >
   > These guys were in their early 30's.
   >
   > There was a new Challenger and a new Camaro there, and the owners
   loved
   > their cars. They were talking about other cars too. I don't remember
   > details except that they had 4-bangers with nitrous.
   >
   > There are a lot of car shows down here (Ft. Lauderdale / Miami).
   There
   > are as many young guys as there are old.
   >
   > My point is that as far as I can tell, the interest is still there.
   Cars
   > aren't as cool as they once were, but the fault isn't the lack of
   interest.
   >
   > I don't have an answer, though. Maybe it's a lack of relevance. When
   > Billy Joe Jim Bob wins a NASCAR race, is he driving a Ford? A Chevy?
   If
   > a Toyota wins, do you want to head out to your Toyota dealer and buy
   a
   > Prius? What about F1? Cool to watch, but did they really win in a
   > Ferrari or an Audi?
   >
   > Or maybe it's because all the safety gadgets remove the soul of the
   car.
   > There was a 1961 Starliner at the last cruise night. That's a pretty
   car,
   > but impossible to build with today's regulations. You can't even get
   > close. A car that like that needs lots of chrome.
   >
   > When the 5.0 Mustangs took off, it was fueled by low prices, great
   > performance, drag racing, and hot rodding.
   >
   > I personally think the article is wrong. Young people still like
   their
   > cars, but auto makers do not know how to reach them.
   >
   >
   >
   > On 3/30/14 3:13 PM, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   >
   > >Dear Bjoern,
   > >
   > >
   > > It is a typo. It should read: "It is a problem for the
   > >car makers *and* it is a problem for car clubs from BMWCCA to POCA."
   > >
   > >
   > > My apologies for the confusion, Chuck Engles
   > >
   > >
   > >-----Original Message-----
   > >From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   > >bflesland at gmail.com
   > >Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:27 PM
   > >To: detomaso at poca.com
   > >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC interesting article
   > >
   > >What do you mean by saying:
   > >It is a problem for the car
   > >makers, but it is a problem for car clubs from BMWCCA to POCA.
   > >Cheers Bjoern
   > >
   > >> Den 30. mars 2014 kl. 15:32 skrev "Charles Engles"
   <cengles at cox.net>:
   > >>
   > >> It is a problem for the car
   > >> makers, but it is a problem for car clubs from BMWCCA to POCA.
   > >
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