[DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
Himes, Terry (397C)
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Wed Mar 26 18:37:46 EDT 2014
True. I still have my 1930 Model A that my dad and I restored. I will pass it on.
(sooner than I would like ;-)
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>
Reply-To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>
Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:02 PM
To: Dave <dave at damardirect.com<mailto:dave at damardirect.com>>, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com<mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com>>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
I'm sure this discussion happened in the 1980s when the crowd that loved 1920s and 1930s cars started to pass away.
Yet, those cars are still valuable now.
Bugattis are owned by guys in their 60s, yet they were made long before any of them were born.
I have cars that were made before I was born as well.
There is a lot more exposure for old cars in general today than there has ever been. The age group that was born after a particular type of car was made will have an appreciation for them through FB, Youtube, Pinterest, etc.
Who knows what will happen in the next few decades though...
LS
central
wines-spirits est 1934
625 e street nw
washington, dc 20004
centralwines.com
facebook.com/CentralLiquors
202-737-2800
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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
How about the cars like a '32 Cadillac16 cyl? Cars that fall in that caliber, I would think are worrying about who will become the future caretakers.
IndyDave
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob at dumoulins.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:42 PM
To: Bill Lewis
Cc: De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
Response inline
On Mar 25, 2014 12:56 PM, "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com<mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
I think about this frequently and have mentioned it on here before -
about the "aging & graying" of the American auto enthusiast. I don't
know if there is anything that can be done about the (seeming) lack of
interest in vehicles of contemporary male youths. First question is,
is that true? Then, if true - why? Then, can it be turned around?
-----------------------------------------
-------------- -I think that if I were GM, instead of spending $$$$ on
racing Corvettes, I would produce a 21st century version of the old TV
"Route 66" series. And, if I were Harley Davidson, I would churn out a
bunch of the old motorcycle-gang B movies. I mean, if you want kids to
smoke, what do you do - you have cool characters in TV/movies smoke.
I can see Senate hearings to ban sports cars because they represent what is wrong with youth.
.
---BILL Lewis
From: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: scscottc at gmail.com<mailto:scscottc at gmail.com>; detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:44:38 +0000
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
I agree. But I think the people who own their Pantera's now (today)
will alway
s drive them!
I know I go through withdrawal if I go too long without firing up and
driving my
Pantera.
Our cars will live on, but I think the next generations++ might not
drive
them a
s much. In 2035 it
would be fun to look down and see a Pantera blowing away electric cars
on
the hi
ghway. ;-)
Of course availability of gas might be a problem. <heh heh>
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead Rosetta/MEX/VEX
Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
From: Scott Carpenter <scscottc at gmail.com<mailto:scscottc at gmail.com><mailto:scscottc at gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:55 AM
To: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com><mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
I've been with Hagerty since I got my Pantera fourteen years ago.
Originally I had my Pantera on an agreed upon value policy of $35,000,
last year I bumped it up to $60,000. I've never had to make a claim
so I guess so far I am happy with them. If values keep going up I
will
probably
look at bumping it up in the next year or two.
As someone who will probably never sell I am torn about the raise in
values. While I think it is great that the Pantera is finally given
some recognition for being the great car we all know it is, I don't
want it to become worth so much that it starts to make people not want to drive them.
Personally even if my Pantera is worth $50-70K it is still a viable
risk
to
take for the same nice weekend drives that I usually take it on... If
it were to drastically go up to say $150K then I might start to
question the sanity of driving it amongst a sea of Pickups, SUVs and
Minivans where the drivers may or may not be busy texting or yelling
at the kids in back to see my tiny little Italian hot rod.
Scott
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True. I still have my 1930 Model A that my dad and I restored. I
will pass it on.
(sooner than I would like ;-)
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: LS <[2]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: LS <[3]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:02 PM
To: Dave <[4]dave at damardirect.com>, Rob Dumoulin
<[5]rob at dumoulins.net>, Bill Lewis <[6]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
Cc: De Tomaso List <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
I'm sure this discussion happened in the 1980s when the crowd that
loved 1920s and 1930s cars started to pass away.
Yet, those cars are still valuable now.
Bugattis are owned by guys in their 60s, yet they were made long before
any of them were born.
I have cars that were made before I was born as well.
There is a lot more exposure for old cars in general today than there
has ever been. The age group that was born after a particular type of
car was made will have an appreciation for them through FB, Youtube,
Pinterest, etc.
Who knows what will happen in the next few decades though...
LS
central
wines-spirits est 1934
625 e street nw
washington, dc 20004
centralwines.com
facebook.com/CentralLiquors
202-737-2800
________________________________
From: Dave <[8]dave at damardirect.com>
To: Rob Dumoulin <[9]rob at dumoulins.net>; Bill Lewis
<[10]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
Cc: De Tomaso List <[11]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
How about the cars like a '32 Cadillac16 cyl? Cars that fall in that
caliber, I would think are worrying about who will become the future
caretakers.
IndyDave
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Dumoulin [[12]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:42 PM
To: Bill Lewis
Cc: De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
Response inline
On Mar 25, 2014 12:56 PM, "Bill Lewis" <[13]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
wrote:
I think about this frequently and have mentioned it on here before
-
about the "aging & graying" of the American auto enthusiast. I
don't
know if there is anything that can be done about the (seeming) lack
of
interest in vehicles of contemporary male youths. First question
is,
is that true? Then, if true - why? Then, can it be turned around?
-----------------------------------------
-------------- -I think that if I were GM, instead of spending $$$$
on
racing Corvettes, I would produce a 21st century version of the old
TV
"Route 66" series. And, if I were Harley Davidson, I would churn
out a
bunch of the old motorcycle-gang B movies. I mean, if you want
kids to
smoke, what do you do - you have cool characters in TV/movies
smoke.
I can see Senate hearings to ban sports cars because they represent
what is wrong with youth.
.
---BILL Lewis
From: [14]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
To: [15]scscottc at gmail.com; [16]detomaso at poca.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:44:38 +0000
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
I agree. But I think the people who own their Pantera's now (today)
will alway
s drive them!
I know I go through withdrawal if I go too long without firing up and
driving my
Pantera.
Our cars will live on, but I think the next generations++ might not
drive
them a
s much. In 2035 it
would be fun to look down and see a Pantera blowing away electric cars
on
the hi
ghway. ;-)
Of course availability of gas might be a problem. <heh heh>
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead Rosetta/MEX/VEX
Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[17]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[18]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
From: Scott Carpenter
<[19]scscottc at gmail.com<[20]mailto:scscottc at gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:55 AM
To: De Tomaso List
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
I've been with Hagerty since I got my Pantera fourteen years ago.
Originally I had my Pantera on an agreed upon value policy of $35,000,
last year I bumped it up to $60,000. I've never had to make a claim
so I guess so far I am happy with them. If values keep going up I
will
probably
look at bumping it up in the next year or two.
As someone who will probably never sell I am torn about the raise in
values. While I think it is great that the Pantera is finally given
some recognition for being the great car we all know it is, I don't
want it to become worth so much that it starts to make people not want
to drive them.
Personally even if my Pantera is worth $50-70K it is still a viable
risk
to
take for the same nice weekend drives that I usually take it on... If
it were to drastically go up to say $150K then I might start to
question the sanity of driving it amongst a sea of Pickups, SUVs and
Minivans where the drivers may or may not be busy texting or yelling
at the kids in back to see my tiny little Italian hot rod.
Scott
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