[DeTomaso] NPC: Senna
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 25 10:31:56 EDT 2014
I'm not a great fiction reader, but a dog loving neighbor got me that book and I thoroughly enoyed it.
Julian
From: lotus0005 at hotmail.com
To: detomaso at poca.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:15:09 +0000
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Senna
While this is on the subject of driving in the rain - I may have mentioned this before, but … - if you are a dog lover, there is a great novel, THE ART OF RACING IN THE RAIN, by Garth Stein, about a dog and one of his owner's, who races in the rain and wins! And, soon to be made into a movie! If you cried in the Lassie movies back in the 40's, you'll love this! ---BILL Lewis
> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:58:18 -0700
> From: asajay at asajay.com
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Senna
>
> I too, after having many people tell me about the movie, managed to get
> a copy from the Library a couple weeks ago.
>
> In contrast, I still think he had some arrogance that caused him
> problems. What I saw was a man who appeared to be brilliant at
> controlling an F1 race car, especially in the rain. Whether that was
> due to a better understanding of control or just bigger balls is
> debatable. I think back to things I've read with regard to Carrol
> Shelby and it's been nearly the same, they both appeared to know how to
> drive it in deep and make it stick despite the conditions. Both
> appeared to have bigger balls than the next guy. And I think Senna
> carried some of that ability as an air of arrogance with him.
>
> I think what solidified some of that for me was when F1 began changing
> the cars and Senna began having driving issues. He didn't appear to
> "adapt" very well and I think his career began to suffer from it due to
> his arrogance. Eventually, either through adapting or due to additional
> changes in the cars he continued to be the darling star of F1, even if
> it wasn't who the politicians thought it should be.
>
> To the politics, he simply didn't fit the mold. I found it inequitable
> for F1 to blatantly change rules to give Prost an advantage. I think
> that caused Senna frustration, like it would any other driver. I think
> both he and Prost had a chip on their shoulder but I think Senna was the
> better more ballsy driver.
>
> But I still think he was arrogant.
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>
>
> On 3/24/2014 6:51 AM, cengles at cox.net wrote:
> > Dear Mikael,
> >
> > By coincidence, I, too, finally saw for the first
> > time, Senna , this month. I also thought that he was something of an
> > arrogant jerk at the time he was racing, but I have completely changed
> > my mind after seeing the movie.
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Mikael wrote:
> >
> > > It's rare that you change your mind 180 degrees, especially at my
> > age. You
> >
> > > think you know most things, no more surprises. Well, I just saw the
> > Senna
> >
> > > movie and changed my mind. I started to watch F1 in 1994 after
> > Senna's
> >
> > > death, so never saw him drive a whole race. I've always thought he
> > was a
> >
> > > reckless jerk for what he did to Prost in Japan. Now that I've seen
> > the
> >
> > > movie I think differently. To see Prost and that jerk in charge, the
> >
> > > Frenchman Balestre, laugh together, and Senna being disqualified for
> > not
> >
> > > going in the opposite direction after his off. And to see Senna
> > winning pole
> >
> > > a year later and being given the dirty side of the track. With that
> > in mind,
> >
> > > I could have decided to ram Prost myself... And it looked like both
> > were at
> >
> > > fault for that accident.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Well, I realize that that movie may be biased, so maybe I'll change
> > my mind
> >
> > > again. But I have a different view of Senna now...
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Mvh/Regards
> >
> > > Mikael
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
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I'm not a great fiction reader, but a dog loving neighbor got me that
book and I thoroughly enoyed it.
Julian
From: lotus0005 at hotmail.com
To: detomaso at poca.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:15:09 +0000
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Senna
While this is on the subject of driving in the rain - I may have mentioned this
before, but - if you are a dog lover, there is a great novel, THE ART OF RACING
IN THE RAIN, by Garth Stein, about a dog and one of his owner's, who races in t
he rain and wins! And, soon to be made into a movie! If you cried in the Lass
ie movies back in the 40's, you'll love this! ---BILL Lewis
> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:58:18 -0700
> From: asajay at asajay.com
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Senna
>
> I too, after having many people tell me about the movie, managed to get
> a copy from the Library a couple weeks ago.
>
> In contrast, I still think he had some arrogance that caused him
> problems. What I saw was a man who appeared to be brilliant at
> controlling an F1 race car, especially in the rain. Whether that was
> due to a better understanding of control or just bigger balls is
> debatable. I think back to things I've read with regard to Carrol
> Shelby and it's been nearly the same, they both appeared to know how to
> drive it in deep and make it stick despite the conditions. Both
> appeared to have bigger balls than the next guy. And I think Senna
> carried some of that ability as an air of arrogance with him.
>
> I think what solidified some of that for me was when F1 began changing
> the cars and Senna began having driving issues. He didn't appear to
> "adapt" very well and I think his career began to suffer from it due to
> his arrogance. Eventually, either through adapting or due to additional
> changes in the cars he continued to be the darling star of F1, even if
> it wasn't who the politicians thought it should be.
>
> To the politics, he simply didn't fit the mold. I found it inequitable
> for F1 to blatantly change rules to give Prost an advantage. I think
> that caused Senna frustration, like it would any other driver. I think
> both he and Prost had a chip on their shoulder but I think Senna was the
> better more ballsy driver.
>
> But I still think he was arrogant.
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> [1]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> [3]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>
>
> On 3/24/2014 6:51 AM, cengles at cox.net wrote:
> > Dear Mikael,
> >
> > By coincidence, I, too, finally saw for the first
> > time, Senna , this month. I also thought that he was something of an
> > arrogant jerk at the time he was racing, but I have completely changed
> > my mind after seeing the movie.
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Mikael wrote:
> >
> > > It's rare that you change your mind 180 degrees, especially at my
> > age. You
> >
> > > think you know most things, no more surprises. Well, I just saw the
> > Senna
> >
> > > movie and changed my mind. I started to watch F1 in 1994 after
> > Senna's
> >
> > > death, so never saw him drive a whole race. I've always thought he
> > was a
> >
> > > reckless jerk for what he did to Prost in Japan. Now that I've seen
> > the
> >
> > > movie I think differently. To see Prost and that jerk in charge, the
> >
> > > Frenchman Balestre, laugh together, and Senna being disqualified for
> > not
> >
> > > going in the opposite direction after his off. And to see Senna
> > winning pole
> >
> > > a year later and being given the dirty side of the track. With that
> > in mind,
> >
> > > I could have decided to ram Prost myself... And it looked like both
> > were at
> >
> > > fault for that accident.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Well, I realize that that movie may be biased, so maybe I'll change
> > my mind
> >
> > > again. But I have a different view of Senna now...
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Mvh/Regards
> >
> > > Mikael
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
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