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michael at michaelshortt.com michael at michaelshortt.com
Thu Mar 6 14:08:44 EST 2014


Shooting a commercial today in Savannah, had TWO Volvos picked as picture
cars ( to appear onscreen ).
7:30 a.m., picked it up and it left me stranded in the ghetto between the
dealer's lot and the shooting location.
Bad Water pump.
9:45 a.m., called my back up Volvo on standby to please come to the
shooting location at the last minute,
he calls back in 10 minutes, it won't start.

Lost earnings today as a result of Volvos being a Piece of $#@^
$750.00

Michael Shortt


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

>    The interesting thing is that we hardly ever got Volvo's in on trade.
>    Back in the days I was in dealerships (80's -2005) most Volvo owners
>    seemed to buy their cars new and keep them forever. You know Volvo was
>    always advertising their 400,00 - 1, 000,000 cars. The typical Volvo
>    buyer (back in the Volvo "Cube" ere was the pipe smoking, pencil caddy
>    , slide rule guy who knew every specification and was not inclined to
>    buy "someone Else's problems "  Which was the famous excuse for not
>    buying a used car. I have owned a few over the years because they were
>    well made, safe, and REALLY CHEAP! and they really were good for a few
>    hundred thousand miles. I once threw a rod half way between NY and
>    Newport RI in the middle of the night (around 100 miles to go to make
>    it home to Newport) They car made it home running on 3 cylinders with a
>    hole in the block! If I remember correctly it was an 89 740 which was
>    one of the top of the line models.  I always like the Volvo 1800 the
>    Roger Moore drove on the TV show "The saint" they looked great but
>    didn't really run as well as they looked!
>
>    On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Jerry Knotts <[1]knottsj at galstar.com>
>    wrote:
>
>         Boyd,
>         Also you have to remember that Volvo is the original sobb sister.
>         jerry
>
>       On 3/5/2014 3:19 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>       I certainly agree  that the largest the sample size the more diverse
>       the lis will be but at some point one has to draw the line. But some
>    of
>       the choices I suggest don't even belong in a list of cars.The most
>       substantial error (in my opinion is the 1997 Thrust SSC.How can a
>    "one
>       of" land speed record machine even be considered in a list of cool
>       cars? I don't consider it to be a car except under the largest
>    stretch
>       of the imagination. The Bronco isn't a car it's a truck , The Saab
>       although it is a car is as far from cool as one can be, When people
>       used to come into dealerships I worked at trying to trade out of
>    these
>       "boat anchors"  we had an inside Joke , we said " I don't wan't to
>    hear
>        any Sobb (Saab) stories" Saabs and Peugeot's had the lowest
>    residual
>       value of any car on the market. These cars had a residual value
>    value
>       of between 22%and 28%  for 60 months (for comparison purposes Hondas
>       and M.B) which had among the highest residuals values  between 48
>    and
>       54% for 60 months). The residual value was the most important basis
>    in
>       calculating what the cost would be to lease a car. A car wih  50%
>       reisdual value for a 60 month lease would  lose 50% of it's value
>    over
>       60 months . So to make a long story short these cars were pieces of
>       junk.
>       And how about the original Boss 302? Instead of the modern version.
>    I
>       don't want to come across as a  complainer but I just think that
>    they
>       didn't provide what they promised in the title of their article.
>    Many
>       of the cars listed ar in fact very cool. But I think they are a far
>    cry
>       from the "coolest" in the past 51 years.
>
>       On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:20 PM, doug sedon
>    [1]<[1][2]sedond at yahoo.com> wrote:
>            redneck supercar?  the car maybe not.  but the owners?
>         absolutely!  i
>            have never belonged to a list - cars or otherwise - filled w/so
>         many
>            freaking rednecks.  i own #2602 in spite of it!  ;~)
>            doug s.,
>            commie pinko owner of #2602
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   Shooting a commercial today in Savannah, had TWO Volvos picked as
   picture cars ( to appear onscreen ).
   7:30 a.m., picked it up and it left me stranded in the ghetto between
   the dealer's lot and the shooting location.
   Bad Water pump.
   9:45 a.m., called my back up Volvo on standby to please come to the
   shooting location at the last minute,
   he calls back in 10 minutes, it won't start.
   Lost earnings today as a result of Volvos being a Piece of $#@^
   $750.00
   Michael Shortt

   On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
   wrote:

        The interesting thing is that we hardly ever got Volvo's in on
     trade.
        Back in the days I was in dealerships (80's -2005) most Volvo
     owners
        seemed to buy their cars new and keep them forever. You know
     Volvo was
        always advertising their 400,00 - 1, 000,000 cars. The typical
     Volvo
        buyer (back in the Volvo "Cube" ere was the pipe smoking, pencil
     caddy
        , slide rule guy who knew every specification and was not
     inclined to
        buy "someone Else's problems "  Which was the famous excuse for
     not
        buying a used car. I have owned a few over the years because they
     were
        well made, safe, and REALLY CHEAP! and they really were good for
     a few
        hundred thousand miles. I once threw a rod half way between NY
     and
        Newport RI in the middle of the night (around 100 miles to go to
     make
        it home to Newport) They car made it home running on 3 cylinders
     with a
        hole in the block! If I remember correctly it was an 89 740 which
     was
        one of the top of the line models.  I always like the Volvo 1800
     the
        Roger Moore drove on the TV show "The saint" they looked great
     but
        didn't really run as well as they looked!

      On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Jerry Knotts
   <[1][2]knottsj at galstar.com>
      wrote:
           Boyd,
           Also you have to remember that Volvo is the original sobb
   sister.
           jerry
         On 3/5/2014 3:19 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
         I certainly agree  that the largest the sample size the more
   diverse
         the lis will be but at some point one has to draw the line. But
   some
      of
         the choices I suggest don't even belong in a list of cars.The
   most
         substantial error (in my opinion is the 1997 Thrust SSC.How can a
      "one
         of" land speed record machine even be considered in a list of
   cool
         cars? I don't consider it to be a car except under the largest
      stretch
         of the imagination. The Bronco isn't a car it's a truck , The
   Saab
         although it is a car is as far from cool as one can be, When
   people
         used to come into dealerships I worked at trying to trade out of
      these
         "boat anchors"  we had an inside Joke , we said " I don't wan't
   to
      hear
          any Sobb (Saab) stories" Saabs and Peugeot's had the lowest
      residual
         value of any car on the market. These cars had a residual value
      value
         of between 22%and 28%  for 60 months (for comparison purposes
   Hondas
         and M.B) which had among the highest residuals values  between 48
      and
         54% for 60 months). The residual value was the most important
   basis
      in
         calculating what the cost would be to lease a car. A car wih  50%
         reisdual value for a 60 month lease would  lose 50% of it's value
      over
         60 months . So to make a long story short these cars were pieces
   of
         junk.
         And how about the original Boss 302? Instead of the modern
   version.
      I
         don't want to come across as a  complainer but I just think that
      they
         didn't provide what they promised in the title of their article.
      Many
         of the cars listed ar in fact very cool. But I think they are a
   far
      cry
         from the "coolest" in the past 51 years.
         On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:20 PM, doug sedon

      [1]<[1][2][3]sedond at yahoo.com> wrote:
              redneck supercar?  the car maybe not.  but the owners?
           absolutely!  i
              have never belonged to a list - cars or otherwise - filled
   w/so
           many
              freaking rednecks.  i own #2602 in spite of it!  ;~)
              doug s.,
              commie pinko owner of #2602
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