[DeTomaso] NPC: Disgusting
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 3 11:47:38 EST 2014
Although the recent advances in "networked" car computers allows the
authorities (or who ever has access to the information) to monitor ones
driving habits and violations Which presents potential problems beyond the
scope of just Law Enforcement. I feel confident that insurance companies
will soon be monitoring this information to raise rates, cancel policies or
even deny claims when they discover driving that either violates laws or
their companies terms and conditions of coverage. Prior to the
implementation of networked cars Law enforcement was already seizing
computers from cars involved in accidents to determine the speed the car
was traveling (as well as other data) when it was involved in a collision.
I have read of cases where car owners have removed the computer after an
accident to prevent the authorities from obtaining it. I'm fairly confident
that an action to prevent the authorities from gaining access to the cars
computer after an accident could be construed as "tampering with evidence"
, I am equally confident that if laws don't already exist to give
authorities permission to seize vehicles computers after an accident or
incident they soon will. With GPS, facial recognition the installation of
networked video cameras, domestic drone use , and domestic telephone taps
aren't enough there will probably come a day in the not to distant future
where everyone has some form of implanted chip ostensibly to monitor ones
health but with a much more devious hidden agenda in mind. They say "truth
is stranger the fiction" in the case of the advances being made in
monitoring the populace it would certainly seem that reality has surpassed
the imagination of our sci-fi authors.
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
> They will be able to alter the evidence for the trumped up charges while
> the exonerating evidence will be "lost".
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The degree that "big brother " capabilities have advanced in recent
>> years is really very scary. I remember reading 1984 as a student,
>> George Orwell hadn't conceived of the technological implications of the
>> digital age ( no one had) In Mr. Orwell's future every wire tap and
>> bug had a human being monitoring it. This idea presents a logistical
>> nightmare and practical impossibility needing one monitor for every
>> subject being watched which in the fictional society of "1984" was
>> presumably everyone. The reality of today's digital age where computer
>> processing ability has gotten so fast ( and getting faster every year),
>> the capability to monitor just about everyone everywhere has or is
>> very close to becoming a reality. On a positive note it would be nice
>> to be able to go into court and refute trumped up charges for tickets
>> received when one has really not broken the law and being able to prove
>> it with the same technology. The reality is that they will be able to
>> catch so many people actually breaking the law they will no longer have
>> to fabricate charges to meet ticket quotas.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Bill Lewis <[1]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I subscribe to several car magazines, and power and track times
>> seem to
>> be their main focus - even the BMW's and Mercedes, Rolls, etc.
>> Horsepower rules. I wonder if they are aware of the Acenture
>> findings?
>> It's odd that in this "Golden Age" in America that the youth
>> (whatever
>> that means) are not too interested in vehicles. Maybe it's the
>> same
>> thing as: when I was a kid the cowboy western movies ruled; and
>> obviously that is ancient history now. It would be interesting
>> to be
>> alive in 100 years and look back to see what the hot items had
>> been.
>> ---Bill (where is my crystal ball) Lewis
>>
>> > From: [2]mbefthomas at comcast.net
>> > To: [3]davel at emspace.com; [4]Detomaso at poca.com
>>
>>
>> > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 10:55:23 -0800
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Disgusting
>> >
>>
>> > That's a big part of the reason we're having trouble getting
>> younger
>> members
>> > of POCA.
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>> dave
>> londry
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:04 PM
>> > To: List DeTomaso
>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Disgusting
>> >
>> >
>> > Connected Cars
>> >
>> > Improving Sync is crucial for Ford to draw car shoppers who are
>> increasingly
>> > looking to be connected at all times. In-vehicle technology is the
>> top
>> > selling point for 39 percent of auto buyers, more than twice the
>> 14
>> percent
>> > who say their first consideration is traditional performance
>> measures
>> such
>> > as power and speed, according to a study by the consulting firm
>> Accenture
>> > released in December.
>> >
>> > (vomiting in my lunch)
>> > dave
>> >
>> >
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>> 2. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>> 3. mailto:davel at emspace.com
>> 4. mailto:Detomaso at poca.com
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>> 6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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Although the recent advances in "networked" car computers allows the
authorities (or who ever has access to the information) to monitor ones
driving habits and violations Which presents potential problems beyond
the scope of just Law Enforcement. I feel confident that insurance
companies will soon be monitoring this information to raise rates,
cancel policies or even deny claims when they discover driving that
either violates laws or their companies terms and conditions of
coverage. Prior to the implementation of networked cars Law enforcement
was already seizing computers from cars involved in accidents to
determine the speed the car was traveling (as well as other data) when
it was involved in a collision. I have read of cases where car owners
have removed the computer after an accident to prevent the authorities
from obtaining it. I'm fairly confident that an action to prevent the
authorities from gaining access to the cars computer after an accident
could be construed as "tampering with evidence" , I am equally
confident that if laws don't already exist to give authorities
permission to seize vehicles computers after an accident or incident
they soon will. With GPS, facial recognition the installation of
networked video cameras, domestic drone use , and domestic telephone
taps aren't enough there will probably come a day in the not to distant
future where everyone has some form of implanted chip ostensibly to
monitor ones health but with a much more devious hidden agenda in mind.
They say "truth is stranger the fiction" in the case of the advances
being made in monitoring the populace it would certainly seem that
reality has surpassed the imagination of our sci-fi authors.
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Konrad Szwab <[1]kszwab at gmail.com>
wrote:
They will be able to alter the evidence for the trumped up charges
while the exonerating evidence will be "lost".
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
The degree that "big brother " capabilities have advanced in recent
years is really very scary. I remember reading 1984 as a student,
George Orwell hadn't conceived of the technological implications of
the
digital age ( no one had) In Mr. Orwell's future every wire tap and
bug had a human being monitoring it. This idea presents a logistical
nightmare and practical impossibility needing one monitor for every
subject being watched which in the fictional society of "1984" was
presumably everyone. The reality of today's digital age where
computer
processing ability has gotten so fast ( and getting faster every
year),
the capability to monitor just about everyone everywhere has or is
very close to becoming a reality. On a positive note it would be
nice
to be able to go into court and refute trumped up charges for
tickets
received when one has really not broken the law and being able to
prove
it with the same technology. The reality is that they will be able
to
catch so many people actually breaking the law they will no longer
have
to fabricate charges to meet ticket quotas.
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Bill Lewis
<[1][3]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
wrote:
I subscribe to several car magazines, and power and track times
seem to
be their main focus - even the BMW's and Mercedes, Rolls, etc.
Horsepower rules. I wonder if they are aware of the Acenture
findings?
It's odd that in this "Golden Age" in America that the youth
(whatever
that means) are not too interested in vehicles. Maybe it's the
same
thing as: when I was a kid the cowboy western movies ruled; and
obviously that is ancient history now. It would be interesting
to be
alive in 100 years and look back to see what the hot items had
been.
---Bill (where is my crystal ball) Lewis
> From: [2][4]mbefthomas at comcast.net
> To: [3][5]davel at emspace.com; [4][6]Detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 10:55:23 -0800
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Disgusting
>
> That's a big part of the reason we're having trouble getting
younger
members
> of POCA.
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5][7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
dave
londry
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:04 PM
> To: List DeTomaso
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Disgusting
>
>
> Connected Cars
>
> Improving Sync is crucial for Ford to draw car shoppers who are
increasingly
> looking to be connected at all times. In-vehicle technology is
the
top
> selling point for 39 percent of auto buyers, more than twice
the
14
percent
> who say their first consideration is traditional performance
measures
such
> as power and speed, according to a study by the consulting firm
Accenture
> released in December.
>
> (vomiting in my lunch)
> dave
>
>
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4. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
5. mailto:davel at emspace.com
6. mailto:Detomaso at poca.com
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