[DeTomaso] Steering wheels

Boyd Casey boyd411 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 22 15:22:53 EDT 2014


P.S.
I wanted to clarify that when I said "As a recognized expert on things
Pantera ,I was merely trying to point out the difference between facts and
opinions. " The expert I was referring to was Mike.


On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Dave,
> I can assure you that Mike drew is more then capable of defending himself
> he he feels he has some reason too. He certainly doesn't need YOU to act as
> his protector. Mike made a statement that he "upgraded" to a MOMO wheel ,
> I simply asked in what way a MOMO was an "upgrade" since the Momo came as
> standard equipment it wouldn't qualify as an upgrade in those particular
> instances it would be simply "restoring" the original. Furthermore he went
> on to say "It looks much better"
> and  I wasn't arguing with Mike I was asking for his opinion on what
> exactly made the MOMO an upgrade. I said that Mike was a Pantera expert
> (a compliment ) and wanted the basis for his opinion. I wasn't disputing
> his opinion  I was simply asking for the facts to support it. (facts are
> something that Mike is never in short supply of.)
>  The reason I mentioned Baskin Robbins has 21 flavors (apparently now
> 31)( in case you are not familiar with this saying ) , is because it's a
> common   way of saying "different people have different tastes " and just
> because you ( or any particular person prefers a specific item does not
> necessarily make it better  or an "upgrade". The reason I included the
> background info on Baskin Robbins is because someone was quick to point
> out that BK now has 31 flavors. I was simply pointing out the source for my
> stating there were 21 flavors.
>   I find Mike Drew to be a veritable cornucopia of Pantera information
> and he is quick to point out errors when they arise on the list. As a
> recognized expert on things Pantera I was merely trying to point out the
> difference between facts and opinions. Mike has helped me on more occasions
> then I can count and I have neither the desire nor the ability to "fill his
> shoes". I also have known Mike to have a sense of humor and believe he
> would understand the humor as it was intended in my post. If he took
> offense I'm quite sure he would not hesitate to inform me of it off list.(
> as an Air Force officer he certainly has the ability to communicate
> effectively with out your assistance.)
> It was also not my intent to attempt to compare a MOMO wheel with a
> Lecarra wheel. I have no vested interest in either. My car came with a
> Lecarra wheel , so I did not choose it and it in neither a reflection of
> my preference or my taste. But since it is no longer available for
> Panteras I can see no point in comparing them, Just for the record my
> Lecarra wheel is 3 spoke, 13" diameter and has a stitched leather
> wrapping. At 6' and with long legs it's additional hub length does situate
> it in a perfect driving position for me. I don't know how Mike feels about
> you speaking on his behalf but if the Pantera "Big list" ever needs a
> "Spokes Model" I will be sure to enter your name in the running!
>
> Sincerely .
>
> Hugh Boyd Casey
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I know a Pantera owner that had one of the original 2-spoke steering
>> wheels.  I saw it and thought it was beautiful. He took it off since he
>> didn't like how it felt!  Something about the two-spoke design made the
>> hand hold position uncomfortable for him. So, the grass may not have been
>> greener on the other side.
>>
>> > On Jun 21, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >   In a message dated 6/21/14 20 09 9, pantdino at aol.com writes:
>> >
>> >     If Ford hadn't put those stupid Mercury wheels on the cars they
>> >     probably would have had Momo on US cars too.
>> >
>> >>>> Remember, the early Panteras came with beautiful two-spoke Ferrero
>> >   wheels.  For reasons unknown (perhaps a childish interpretation of
>> >   crash protection laws?) Ford had those beautiful wheels pulled when
>> the
>> >   cars reached the USA, and fitted them with Capri wheels.  Bev Hall
>> told
>> >   me that Bill Stroppe had a huge pile (hundreds!) of those Ferrero
>> >   wheels stacked up in his shop for years, and then he finally took them
>> >   to the dump! :<(
>> >   Now they are worth thousands....sheesh!
>> >   Mike
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   P.S.
   I wanted to clarify that when I said "As a recognized expert on
   thingsA PanteraA ,I was merely trying to point out the difference
   between facts and opinions. " The expert I wasA referring to was Mike.

   On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
   wrote:

   Dear Dave,
   I can assure you that Mike drew is more then capable of defending
   himself he he feels he has some reason too. He certainly doesn't need
   YOU to act as his protector. Mike made a statement that he "upgraded"
   to a MOMO wheel , I simply asked in what way a MOMO was an "upgrade"
   since the Momo came as standard equipment it wouldn't qualify as an
   upgrade in those particular instances it would be simply "restoring"
   the original. Furthermore he went on to say "It looks much better"
   and A I wasn't arguing with Mike I was asking for his opinion on what
   exactly made the MOMO an upgrade. I said that Mike was a Pantera expert
   (a compliment ) and wanted the basis for his opinion. I wasn't
   disputing his opinion A I was simply asking for the facts to support
   it. (facts are something that Mike is never in short supply of.)
   A The reason I mentioned Baskin Robbins has 21 flavors (apparently now
   31)( in case you are not familiar with this saying ) , is because it's
   a common A  way of saying "different people have different tastes " and
   just because you ( or any particular person prefers a specific item
   does not necessarily make it better A or an "upgrade". The reason I
   included the background info on Baskin Robbins is because someone was
   quick to point out that BK now has 31 flavors. I was simply pointing
   out the source for my stating there were 21 flavors.
   A A I find Mike Drew to be a veritable cornucopia of Pantera
   information and he is quick to point out errors when they arise on the
   list. As a recognized expert on things Pantera I was merely trying to
   point out the difference between facts and opinions. Mike has helped me
   on more occasions then I can count and I have neither the desire nor
   the ability to "fill his shoes". I also have known Mike to have a sense
   of humor and believe he would understand the humor as it was intended
   in my post. If he took offense I'm quite sure he would not hesitate to
   inform me of it off list.( as an Air Force officer he certainly has the
   ability to communicate effectively with out your assistance.)A
   It was also not my intent to attempt to compare a MOMO wheel with a
   Lecarra wheel. I have no vested interest in either. My car came with a
   Lecarra wheel , so I did not choose it and it in neither a reflection
   of my preference or my taste. But since it is no longer available for
   Panteras I can see no point in comparing them, Just for the record my
   Lecarra wheel is 3 spoke, 13" diameter and has a stitched leather
   wrapping. At 6' and with long legs it's additional hub length does
   situate it in a perfect driving position for me. I don't know how Mike
   feels about you speaking on his behalf but if the Pantera "Big list"
   ever needs a "Spokes Model" I will be sure to enter your name in the
   running!
   Sincerely .
   Hugh Boyd Casey

   On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Corey Price
   <[2]coreyjprice at gmail.com> wrote:

     I know a Pantera owner that had one of the original 2-spoke steering
     wheels. A I saw it and thought it was beautiful. He took it off
     since he didn't like how it felt! A Something about the two-spoke
     design made the hand hold position uncomfortable for him. So, the
     grass may not have been greener on the other side.

   > On Jun 21, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[3]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   >
   > A  In a message dated 6/21/14 20 09 9, [4]pantdino at aol.com writes:
   >
   > A  A  If Ford hadn't put those stupid Mercury wheels on the cars they
   > A  A  probably would have had Momo on US cars too.
   >
   >>>> Remember, the early Panteras came with beautiful two-spoke Ferrero
   > A  wheels. A For reasons unknown (perhaps a childish interpretation
   of
   > A  crash protection laws?) Ford had those beautiful wheels pulled
   when the
   > A  cars reached the USA, and fitted them with Capri wheels. A Bev
   Hall told
   > A  me that Bill Stroppe had a huge pile (hundreds!) of those Ferrero
   > A  wheels stacked up in his shop for years, and then he finally took
   them
   > A  to the dump! :<(
   > A  Now they are worth thousands....sheesh!
   > A  Mike

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   4. mailto:pantdino at aol.com
   5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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