[DeTomaso] Moving ac condenser to front of car., no, don't.
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Wed Jun 4 13:39:53 EDT 2014
Another benefit of moving it to the front is improving the weight balance.
Steve
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From: "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com>
To: "Rob Dumoulin" <rob at dumoulins.net>
Cc: "Pantera list serve" <detomaso at poca.com>, "Mikael" <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:03:41 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Moving ac condenser to front of car., no, don't.
Rob brings up a very important point. The reason for my considering moving
my condenser is to accommodate the 180 degree headers. Last year I
installed a completely new ac system . An authentic Sandeen compressor (
if you ever are shopping for a new compressor to replace the antiquated
York comppressor you will notice most ads say"Sandeen type") or even worse
they are just Chinese knock offs manufactured without license! Mine was an
authentic Sandeen and was an SD7 vs an SD5. The SD7 is a rotary compressor
with 7 pistons vs 5 on the SD5 and has a larger displacement. The bottom
line is that it capable of compressing a larger volume of Freon then the
SD5. I also installed a Parallel flow condenser a new dryer, a new dual fan
set up and the new dryer had the correct connections to allow installation
of both an over pressure and low pressure cut off switch. ( something that
was missing from the original Pantera AC system). So my new AC works great.
It blows colder air then any other Pantera I have seen. So my motivation is
not in any way connected to an attempt to get a more effective or efficient
AC.
I am looking for the best way to keep my AC while installing 180 degree
exhaust. I already have the exhaust so reworking it to allow the pipes to
exit from the normal exhaust exit point would be expensive and would also
require a change to the cam grind ( which was designed using the 180
exhaust measurements.
What about thinking outside the box ? I know just about everyone has seen
the Ring Bros. Pantera. My new parallel flow condenser is very thin. What
if I could mount it on the front hood with it's own fans and suck air from
inside the car ( the air that comes to the car through the front grill and
from under the car and exhaust through the hood?. I could modify the hood
(if necessary ) I already have vents in my front hood. I haven't measured
them but I think their area is close to the area in the rear of the car ,
which allows the necessary air for the AC to operate properly.
Thoughts ,comments?
Boyd
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> Let's not forget one reason for making the move was to accommodate 180
> degree headers. A Moving up front would be the obvious choice unless
> you get really creative with the plumbing and keep the stock exhaust
> location.
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> [1]rob at dumoulins.net
> [2]www.kbsi.co
> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> Boyd wrote:
> A A A ...
> A A A I have always
> A A A wanted 180 degree headers and having just installed a super
> deluxe
> A A A new AC stem last year the prospect of moving the condenser
> and hoses
> A A A to the front of the car is the only thing that is standing
> in m way.
> A A A ...
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Another benefit of moving it to the front is improving the weight
balance.
Steve
__________________________________________________________________
From: "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com>
To: "Rob Dumoulin" <rob at dumoulins.net>
Cc: "Pantera list serve" <detomaso at poca.com>, "Mikael"
<mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:03:41 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Moving ac condenser to front of car., no,
don't.
Rob brings up a very important point. The reason for my considering
moving
my condenser is to accommodate the 180 degree headers. Last year I
installed a completely new ac system . An authentic Sandeen compressor
(
if you ever are shopping for a new compressor to replace the antiquated
York comppressor you will notice most ads say"Sandeen type") or even
worse
they are just Chinese knock offs manufactured without license! Mine was
an
authentic Sandeen and was an SD7 vs an SD5. The SD7 is a rotary
compressor
with 7 pistons vs 5 on the SD5 and has a larger displacement. The
bottom
line is that it capable of compressing a larger volume of Freon then
the
SD5. I also installed a Parallel flow condenser a new dryer, a new dual
fan
set up and the new dryer had the correct connections to allow
installation
of both an over pressure and low pressure cut off switch. ( something
that
was missing from the original Pantera AC system). So my new AC works
great.
It blows colder air then any other Pantera I have seen. So my
motivation is
not in any way connected to an attempt to get a more effective or
efficient
AC.
I am looking for the best way to keep my AC while installing 180
degree
exhaust. I already have the exhaust so reworking it to allow the pipes
to
exit from the normal exhaust exit point would be expensive and would
also
require a change to the cam grind ( which was designed using the 180
exhaust measurements.
What about thinking outside the box ? I know just about everyone has
seen
the Ring Bros. Pantera. My new parallel flow condenser is very thin.
What
if I could mount it on the front hood with it's own fans and suck air
from
inside the car ( the air that comes to the car through the front grill
and
from under the car and exhaust through the hood?. I could modify the
hood
(if necessary ) I already have vents in my front hood. I haven't
measured
them but I think their area is close to the area in the rear of the
car ,
which allows the necessary air for the AC to operate properly.
Thoughts ,comments?
Boyd
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> Let's not forget one reason for making the move was to accommodate
180
> degree headers. A Moving up front would be the obvious choice
unless
> you get really creative with the plumbing and keep the stock
exhaust
> location.
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> [1]rob at dumoulins.net
> [2]www.kbsi.co
> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> Boyd wrote:
> A A A ...
> A A A I have always
> A A A wanted 180 degree headers and having just installed a
super
> deluxe
> A A A new AC stem last year the prospect of moving the
condenser
> and hoses
> A A A to the front of the car is the only thing that is
standing
> in m way.
> A A A ...
> A A A Boyd
> A A A _______________________________________________
> A A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> References
> A A 1. mailto:[6]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
> A A 2. mailto:[7]boyd411 at gmail.com
> A A 3. mailto:[8]detomaso at poca.com
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> 6. mailto:mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
> 7. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
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