[DeTomaso] Nice 73 selling at $63K

Boyd Casey boyd411 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 4 11:24:21 EDT 2014 

It is quite common for people to establish their ideas of "fair market
value" based solely on someones asking price on sites like E-bay. If you
ever watch Pawn Stars, you will see people constantly asking what appears
to be hyper inflated prices for the items they are attempting to sell. When
they are asked for the basis of their price they inevitably say" I saw one
onE-Bay "selling " for that amount! The Pawn people are quick to point out
that the asking price is just that an "Asking" price. Until something has
actually sold the asking price is little more then a guess or more likely
"Wishful Thinking". After thirty years in the retail automobile business I
can tell you that we used a plethora of sources to come up with an
"estimated" value of a trade in.  I found that the best and safest approach
to use were the most current auction reports from the geographical area
 you were planning on reselling the car in. With rare or unusual cars even
an  auction report was of limited use due to the in frequency of sales of
particular models. For purposes of statistical analysis  a sample size of
one  is practically useless.   In the case of a Pantera  the best source of
information is the combined knowledge of our owner base. There are
particular nuances that only a Pantera owner would know of or appreciate.
There is also the "known unknowns" factor . Which in a nutshell  is if you
are selling your Pantera at auction , ( a real auction , not E-bay) you
never know what someone or two people fighting over a car, will do.

Boyd
P.S. If you haven't seen this it's worth watching. Very interesting and a
little scary.

Ref. Donald Rumsfeld " Known unknowns" Donald Rumsfeld you tube speech
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk>


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

> You mean, ³Nice 73 for sale at $63K².
>
> It isn¹t ³selling² until someone is ³buying².
>
> It will likely sell in the upper $50K¹s.
>
> On 6/3/14, 9:07 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >   It's part of the "Green" movement. All organic parts. Brakes made of
> >   wood car runs on rainwater.
> >   Boyd
> >
> >   On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:58 PM, dave londry <[1]davel at emspace.com>
> >   wrote:
> >
> >     Wilwood dictated to somebody over the phone?
> >     On 03/06/2014 4:30 PM, [2]DtomasoCat at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >     A  A  On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:21 PM, dave londry <[1]davel at
> >     [3]emspace.com>
> >     A  A  wrote:
> >     A  A  >
> >     [2][4]http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
> >     A  A  > dave
> >     A  A  Would love to know more about the "Allwood" brake upgrade it
> >     mentions
> >     A  A  in the ad. A  Probably an upgrade from the standard balsa wood
> >     to Teak
> >     A  A  wood brakes. A Would love to see a performance review of those
> >     super
> >     A  A  stoppers...No wonder the car is so expensive!
> >     A  A  Shaking my head in disbelief,
> >     A  A  Jim
> >     References
> >     A  A  1. [5]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >     A  A  2.
> >     [6]http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
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> >
> >References
> >
> >   1. mailto:davel at emspace.com
> >   2. mailto:DtomasoCat at aol.com
> >   3. http://emspace.com/
> >   4. http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
> >   5. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >   6. http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
> >   7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >   8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >   9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >  10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   It is quite common for people to establish their ideas of "fair market
   value" based solely on someones asking price on sites like E-bay. If
   you ever watch Pawn Stars, you will see people constantly asking what
   appears to be hyper inflated prices for the items they are attempting
   to sell. When they are asked for the basis of their price they
   inevitably say" I saw one onE-Bay "selling " for that amount! The Pawn
   people are quick to point out that the asking price is just that an
   "Asking" price. Until something has actually sold the asking price is
   little more then a guess or more likely "Wishful Thinking". After
   thirty years in the retail automobile business I can tell you that we
   used a plethora of sources to come up with an "estimated" value of a
   trade in. A I found that the best and safest approach to use were the
   most current auction reports from the geographical area A you were
   planning on reselling the car in. With rare or unusual cars even an
   A auction report was of limited use due to the in frequency of sales of
   particular models. For purposes of statistical analysis A a sample size
   of one A is practically useless. A  In the case of a Pantera A the best
   source of information is the combined knowledge of our owner base.
   There are particular nuances that only a Pantera owner would know of or
   appreciate. There is also the "known unknowns" factor . Which in a
   nutshell A is if you are selling your Pantera at auction , ( a real
   auction , not E-bay) you never know what someone or two people fighting
   over a car, will do.
   Boyd
   P.S. If you haven't seen this it's worth watching. Very interesting and
   a little scary.
   Ref. Donald Rumsfeld " Known unknowns"A [1]Donald Rumsfeld you tube
   speech

   On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Will Kooiman
   <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

     You mean, A^3Nice 73 for sale at $63KA^2.
     It isnA^1t A^3sellingA^2 until someone is A^3buyingA^2.
     It will likely sell in the upper $50KA^1s.

   On 6/3/14, 9:07 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[3]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > A  It's part of the "Green" movement. All organic parts. Brakes made
   of
   > A  wood car runs on rainwater.
   > A  Boyd
   >

     > A  On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:58 PM, dave londry
     <[1][4]davel at emspace.com>

   > A  wrote:
   >
   > A  A  Wilwood dictated to somebody over the phone?

   > A  A  On 03/06/2014 4:30 PM, [2][5]DtomasoCat at aol.com wrote:
   >
   > A  A  A A A A On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:21 PM, dave londry <[1]davel
   at
   > A  A  [3][6]emspace.com>
   > A  A  A A A A wrote:
   > A  A  A A A A >
   > A  A
   [2][4][7]http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
   > A  A  A A A A > dave

     > A  A  A A A A Would love to know more about the "Allwood" brake
     upgrade it
     > A  A  mentions
     > A  A  A A A A in the ad. A A Probably an upgrade from the standard
     balsa wood
     > A  A  to Teak
     > A  A  A A A A wood brakes. A Would love to see a performance
     review of those
     > A  A  super

   > A  A  A A A A stoppers...No wonder the car is so expensive!
   > A  A  A A A A Shaking my head in disbelief,
   > A  A  A A A A Jim
   > A  A  References
   > A  A  A A A A 1.
   [5][8]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > A  A  A A A A 2.

     > A  A
     [6][9]http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/

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   >

   >References
   >
   > A  1. mailto:[14]davel at emspace.com
   > A  2. mailto:[15]DtomasoCat at aol.com
   > A  3. [16]http://emspace.com/
   > A  4.
   [17]http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
   > A  5. [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > A  6.
   [19]http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
   > A  7. mailto:[20]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > A  8. [21]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > A  9. mailto:[22]DeTomaso at poca.com

     > A 10. [23]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

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References

   1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk
   2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   3. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
   4. mailto:davel at emspace.com
   5. mailto:DtomasoCat at aol.com
   6. http://emspace.com/
   7. http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
   8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   9. http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  14. mailto:davel at emspace.com
  15. mailto:DtomasoCat at aol.com
  16. http://emspace.com/
  17. http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
  18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  19. http://www.tflcar.com/2014/06/rare-find-1973-detomaso-pantera/
  20. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  21. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  22. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  23. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  24. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  25. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

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