[DeTomaso] #4847 Number of 'P' cars built in 1972

Tue Jul 1 15:53:03 EDT 2014

According to the original Registry done by Bill Van Ess, there were about 571 1972-1/2 Panteras built with both pre-L AND L features. So except for the U.S-only GTS model of '73-74, that group has the smallest production numbers of the Ford-production era, but there once were well over 500 of them. How many are still mobile and still in the U.S? No one knows. 
FWIW- J DeRyke with #4366

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From: Dave <dave at damardirect.com>
To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>; Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; Tom Baranek <tbaranek at earthlink.net>; Chuck Melton <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>; Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] #4847  Number of 'P' cars built in 1972

Same for 4604
IndyDave

-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Stewart [mailto:bjbstewart at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 3:10 PM
To: Christopher Kimball; Tom Baranek; Chuck Melton; Pantera list serve
Cc: knottsj at galstar.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] #4847 Number of 'P' cars built in 1972

I have a weird one - 4328 is technically registered as a 73. Has a two pod dash 
but is an "L". I think this may be the mysterious 72 1/2 model.  Originally came 
with full front bumper, but was changed to chrome bumperettes. 

On Monday, June 30, 2014 11:47 AM, Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com> 
wrote:

   I own #3846, 1972 pre-L.
   Chris
   From: tbaranek at earthlink.net
   To: detomasoregistry at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
   Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:19:40 -0400
   CC: knottsj at galstar.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] #4847 Number of 'P' cars built in 1972

I just happen to own THPNMSO4847 (see reference below).
It is titled as a 1973 (with big bumpers) but it has the early dash and (I under
stand) the 1972 spec 351C.
Tom
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:30:10 -0700
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To: "'Jerry Knotts'" <knottsj at galstar.com>, "'De Tomaso List'"
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Number of 'P' cars built in 1972
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Just doing some math (ignoring what various "reports" may indicate)...

Marti Reports may have another number, as they count differently, having a 
different definition of "Model Year".

2293 is the first "M" code (Jan 1972) car, while 5101 (0r 5100) is the last "M"
code car.
But there are a LOT of "M" cars started in December 1972 (or earlier) that were 
not "finished"
until 3/73 or later.
(4847 is listed as a 1/73 date, but 4908 is listed as an 11/72 - Go figure!)

5100 - 2293 = 2807.

Chuck

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   According to the original Registry done by Bill Van Ess, there were
   about 571 1972-1/2 Panteras built with both pre-L AND L features. So
   except for the U.S-only GTS model of '73-74, that group has the
   smallest production numbers of the Ford-production era, but there once
   were well over 500 of them. How many are still mobile and still in the
   U.S? No one knows.
   FWIW- J DeRyke with #4366

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Dave <dave at damardirect.com>
   To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>; Christopher Kimball
   <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; Tom Baranek <tbaranek at earthlink.net>; Chuck
   Melton <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>; Pantera list serve
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   Cc: knottsj <knottsj at galstar.com>
   Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 11:18 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] #4847 Number of 'P' cars built in 1972
Same for 4604
IndyDave

-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Stewart [[1]mailto:bjbstewart at yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 3:10 PM
To: Christopher Kimball; Tom Baranek; Chuck Melton; Pantera list serve
Cc: [2]knottsj at galstar.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] #4847 Number of 'P' cars built in 1972

I have a weird one - 4328 is technically registered as a 73. Has a two pod dash
but is an "L". I think this may be the mysterious 72 1/2 model.  Originally came

with full front bumper, but was changed to chrome bumperettes.

On Monday, June 30, 2014 11:47 AM, Christopher Kimball <[3]chrisvkimball at msn.com
>
wrote:

   I own #3846, 1972 pre-L.
   Chris
   From: [4]tbaranek at earthlink.net
   To: [5]detomasoregistry at gmail.com; [6]detomaso at poca.com
   Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:19:40 -0400
   CC: [7]knottsj at galstar.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] #4847 Number of 'P' cars built in 1972

I just happen to own THPNMSO4847 (see reference below).
It is titled as a 1973 (with big bumpers) but it has the early dash and (I under
stand) the 1972 spec 351C.
Tom
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:30:10 -0700
From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[8]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
To: "'Jerry Knotts'" <[9]knottsj at galstar.com>, "'De Tomaso List'"
<[10]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Number of 'P' cars built in 1972
Message-ID: <1EA069C6184A4A9CA768FD40CF8D1127 at BOSS3A>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Just doing some math (ignoring what various "reports" may indicate)...

Marti Reports may have another number, as they count differently, having a
different definition of "Model Year".

2293 is the first "M" code (Jan 1972) car, while 5101 (0r 5100) is the last "M"
code car.
But there are a LOT of "M" cars started in December 1972 (or earlier) that were
not "finished"
until 3/73 or later.
(4847 is listed as a 1/73 date, but 4908 is listed as an 11/72 - Go figure!)

5100 - 2293 = 2807.

Chuck

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