[DeTomaso] Autoweek online Mention

Fri Feb 7 09:11:30 EST 2014

Dear Lashdeep,

              Your points are well taken.   I would point out that the 
passion and enthusiasm of the this group for Panteras and modifications 
thereof, are related to the belated  market appreciation of stock 
original Panteras.  We have modified and maintained them and kept them 
driveable and usable.   As Charlie McCall says, "raising Pantera 
awareness."

               I own two Panteras.   Both were bone stock when I bought 
them in twenty five years ago.  Each modification was a definite 
incremental improvement in the car's performance.   I wouldn't go back.

              On the other hand, a good friend, who owns two Diablos, 
finally succumbed to my influence and bought a Pantera.  As he says, " I 
have all the horsepower I want.  I want a low mileage stock Pantera." 
He bought a Pantera that was ever so slightly misrepresented as a low 
mileage stock Pantera.  He has proceeded to spend the last several 
months correcting things and restoring it back to stock original.

             So, for whatever reason, it does seem to be the "Second 
Coming of Panteras".  They are wonderful cars.

                         Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:28 PM, LS wrote:

  We all have our ways of enjoying our cars and are entitled to do 
whatever we please obviously.

There is a quantitative way to measure the world's perception of our 
beloved Detomaso cars...sales prices.

Many of you equate the fixation or study of sales prices with cold 
greed, sterile investment, or outright snobbery.

It is, in actuality, the easiest way to determine what the world 
(including us) thinks of Detomaso.

A simple observation here is that cosmetically stock cars are bringing 
strong money. It appears that even the slightest cosmetic modification 
detracts in some way from the sales prices.

Even a simple change detracts from this ultimate fact and will 
potentially devalue the cars.

I have no problem with modifications but we still need to realize  that 
we all have started with one of the most perfectly styled exotics 
(including the original wheels) ever created.

I have a suspicion that some of you long time owners don't want to 
believe this.

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From: Stephen Nelson <steve at snclocks.com>
To: detomaso at poca.com
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Autoweek online Mention

I would think the best thing to do is acknowledge that we might not get 
any monetary benefit to all those mods we put into the cars.  And, in 
fact, if we start with a highly original car, we will be far less likely 
to get any monetary benefit.  But, is that why we modify the cars?  To 
make money?  If so, well, then we ain’t all that bright.

Flip side, given the surprisingly poor quality of many of the mods I 
have seen on cars I looked at when finding 5332 – including 5332 – the 
reality is that all too many modified cars are poorly done and really 
don’t deserve any premium – in fact – they deserve significant 
devaluation.

Do great work, and drive these great cars!

Stephen Nelson

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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of 
michael at michaelshortt.com
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:18 AM
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Autoweek online Mention

In a story about aJan auctions, Mecum vs BJ.

DeTomaso Pantera At Mecum,  you'd have paid $49,500 
<http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0114-172060&entryRow=2893> 
to take home a 1974 example of the increasingly desirable Pantera. At 
Barrett-Jackson, a 1971 car  would have set you back $48,400 
<http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=1650&aid=525> 
. The difference is originality -- the early B-J car is tuned, to put it 
mildly, with flashy five-spokes and a nitrous-oxide system. Depending on 
your perspective, this is either a huge improvement or an unacceptable 
desecration. Compare that to the “highly original” Mecum car.
Winner:  We'd vote for the unmolested car at Mecum, but that's personal 
preference at play. This one's inconclusive.

Michael Shortt
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