[DeTomaso] Engine rebuild and The Great Dyno Project

Tue Feb 4 14:48:23 EST 2014

I would hope to have tested using my parts done relatively soon as I do want
to build a motor someday :)

Larry (planning planning) - Cleveland

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Daniel C
Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 1:59 PM
Cc: DeTomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine rebuild and The Great Dyno Project

> The Dyno Project goes on, doesn't it?

It does.  We've got Brian Hill's 410C on the dyno now.  Brian kindly

offered to let me use his engine to do back-to-back testing between

his iron closed chamber 4V heads and a set of my aluminum high ports

(ported C302Bs) but with the very cold weather this winter Dave's

running a bit behind on the dyno so we won't be able to complete that

testing.  The dyno rolls outside the shop and hooks up to a water

source so we need above freezing weather for dyno testing.  Dave needs

to get his circle track engine on the dyno for some development work.

We'll pick back up with testing the C302B heads on my 407 Fontana

engine in the spring.  After that, the 351C dyno project will go on

hiatus for a while as I have four different Buick/Rover/Olds aluminum

stroker V8s to test as well as a 347 cubic inch SBF.

I'll do a more complete write up later but here's a teaser for now.

Brian's 10:1 compression street 410C made 560 horsepower at 6050 RPM

and 526 lbs-ft at 4600 RPM through the Magnaflow mufflers with a

hydraulic roller cam, iron closed chamber 4V heads, a ported Scorpion

intake and a Holley 750HP carb.  Not too shabby for low budget factory

iron Cleveland heads.  FWIW, the Dynomation simulation was predicting

another 70 HP for my ported C302B heads and intake.

> Does the Project need monetary donations?

Yes.  I've been funding ith out of my pocket for a while which is one

reason why testing has been less frequent.

> Send them to PayPal to your email address?

Yes.

Thanks!

Dan Jones

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

> Dear Dan,

> 

> 

>             The Dyno Project goes on, doesn't it?   Does the Project need

> monetary donations?   Send them to PayPal to your email address?

> 

> 

>                          Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> ---Original Message-----

> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Daniel C

> Jones

> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 9:15 PM

> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com

> Cc: npdrs at maui.net; POCA list

> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine rebuild

> 

> Like Mike says, the info is scattered around the web as I don't have a

> personal website.  Here are a few engine builds we've done with different

> Cleveland style heads:

> 

> 408C with iron 4V heads and 5500 RPM street hydraulic roller cam (made

> 468 HP through mufflers with Ford low rise dual plane and 483 HP with
Holley

> Strip Dominator):

> 

>  http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/5690015564

>  http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso/2006-November/078498.html only made
468

> HP at this point with dual plane Ford intake

> 

> Mike Drew's 526HP @ 6000 RPM 408C with unported CHI-4V heads, ported Blue

> Thunder dual plane intake manifold and hydraulic roller cam:

> 

> 

>
http://www.gearheadtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?24678-Dyno-Results-for-a-S

> treet-Pantera-408C&highlight=Mike+Drew+408C

> 

> 550+ HP 408C with TFS 2V CNC ported heads and street hydraulic roller

> peaking at 6000 RPM:

> 

> 

>
http://www.gearheadtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?33187-Trick-Flow-PowerPort

> -Cleveland-heads

> 

> Pantera 403C for my daily driver Pantera that made 569 HP peaking at

> 6350 RPM with old Ford Motorsport A3 aluminum high port Cleveland heads
and

> hydraulic roller cam:

> 

> 

>
http://www.gearheadtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?30922-Pantera-403C-on-the-

> Dyno

> 

> Kelly Coffield 602 HP @ 6400 RPM with lightly ported C302B heads, Roush

> intake, 10:1, Reed solid roller (during break-in, without

> tuning):

> 

>  http://www.the351cforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26

> 

> Dave McLain 438 cubic inch Clevor with unported CHI 3V heads and intake,

> Demos street solid roller, 10.5:1 that made 666 HP at 6300 RPM and 627

> ft-lbs through the mufflers for street Pantera:

> 

> 

>
http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1297989634/Dyno+Results+from+An

> other+Pantera+Stroker

> 

> The 351C dyno mule write ups are scattered about but shoould be in the
email

> list archives.  Then there are the 351C FYI tips and the intake manifold

> list along with several other engine build write ups I should do but I
just

> don't have the time right now.  Is there something specific you are
looking

> for?

> 

> Dan Jones

> 

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