[DeTomaso] 1974 DETOMASO PANTERA GTS ORIGINAL, Hank Carlini car

[James coyne]

From: tecnosound at hotmail.com
To: detomasoregistry at gmail.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] 1974 DETOMASO PANTERA GTS ORIGINAL, UNRESTORED PROTOTYPE - $85000
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:32:00 -0800




I suspected that was a Carlini car .  ( Ford Pantera project manager, followed Iococa to Chrysler ) I remember seeing pictures and references to it previously . That would also explain what he meant by the term " with provenance ". 
 
> From: detomasoregistry at gmail.com
> To: Detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:37:09 -0800
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1974 DETOMASO PANTERA GTS ORIGINAL,	UNRESTORED PROTOTYPE - $85000
> 
> >
> The car discussed is #4275.  It was made for Hank Carlini, with
> 
> details in the registry.
> 
> There are several unusual De Tomaso cars on the market right now.
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> >    In a message dated 12/18/14 9 55 52, michael at michaelshortt.com writes:
> >
> >      IMHO Opinion...Puffery.
> >      I have no idea why one would prototype
> >      a trim package that had been made for years.
> >
> >    >>>Well, this car is certainly unusual.  Calling it a 'prototype' is
> >    more than a bit of a stretch.  My understanding is that it is a
> >    special-order car built for a Ford exec.  As such, it is a odd hybrid
> >    between the USA and Euro models.  It has the Euro interior (upholstered
> >    in leather or vinyl, can't really tell, and alcantara or velour
> >    apparently), but the USA bumpers.  It has USA gauges and switches but a
> >    Euro GTS steering wheel.
> >
> >      >GTS models were made in Europe
> >      in previous years, it is true that US GTS models
> >      were only made in 1974. 150 of them in total.
> >
> >    >>>The first part is not true--a considerable percentage of the
> >    US-market GTS Panteras were made in 1973, and those sold in California
> >    were apparently titled as 1973 cars to get around more onorous 1974
> >    smog restrictions.  It's often mistakingly said that only 98 US-market
> >    GTS Panteras were made; that fails to account for the 52 1973 models
> >    (California cars).
> >    All US-market GTS Panteras wore standard wheels (7- and 8-inch).  Note
> >    that the flares are painted black on this car, which is another Kustom
> >    touch.
> >
> >      >This would be 1 of 60 made in silver/black
> >      (if the serial tag confirms it is a GTS)
> >      There are also 6O black cherry/burgandy and Black
> >      and 30 in Yellow/Gold and Black.
> >
> >    >>>Given this car's Italo-American hybrid status, it seems quite likely
> >    that this was not one of the 150 GTS Panteras, but rather a one-off
> >    custom car that wore a conventional VIN.  Simply looking at the VIN and
> >    body service number will reveal all.
> >    Mike
> >
> >
> 
> 
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   From: tecnosound at hotmail.com
   To: detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] 1974 DETOMASO PANTERA GTS ORIGINAL, UNRESTORED
   PROTOTYPE - $85000
   Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:32:00 -0800
   I suspected that was a Carlini car .  ( Ford Pantera project manager,
   followed Iococa to Chrysler ) I remember seeing pictures and references
   to it previously . That would also explain what he meant by the term "
   with provenance ".

   > From: detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   > To: Detomaso at poca.com
   > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:37:09 -0800
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1974 DETOMASO PANTERA GTS ORIGINAL,
   UNRESTORED PROTOTYPE - $85000
   >
   > >
   > The car discussed is #4275. It was made for Hank Carlini, with
   >
   > details in the registry.
   >
   > There are several unusual De Tomaso cars on the market right now.
   >
   >
   >
   > Chuck
   >
   >
   > > In a message dated 12/18/14 9 55 52, michael at michaelshortt.com
   writes:
   > >
   > > IMHO Opinion...Puffery.
   > > I have no idea why one would prototype
   > > a trim package that had been made for years.
   > >
   > > >>>Well, this car is certainly unusual. Calling it a 'prototype' is
   > > more than a bit of a stretch. My understanding is that it is a
   > > special-order car built for a Ford exec. As such, it is a odd
   hybrid
   > > between the USA and Euro models. It has the Euro interior
   (upholstered
   > > in leather or vinyl, can't really tell, and alcantara or velour
   > > apparently), but the USA bumpers. It has USA gauges and switches
   but a
   > > Euro GTS steering wheel.
   > >
   > > >GTS models were made in Europe
   > > in previous years, it is true that US GTS models
   > > were only made in 1974. 150 of them in total.
   > >
   > > >>>The first part is not true--a considerable percentage of the
   > > US-market GTS Panteras were made in 1973, and those sold in
   California
   > > were apparently titled as 1973 cars to get around more onorous 1974
   > > smog restrictions. It's often mistakingly said that only 98
   US-market
   > > GTS Panteras were made; that fails to account for the 52 1973
   models
   > > (California cars).
   > > All US-market GTS Panteras wore standard wheels (7- and 8-inch).
   Note
   > > that the flares are painted black on this car, which is another
   Kustom
   > > touch.
   > >
   > > >This would be 1 of 60 made in silver/black
   > > (if the serial tag confirms it is a GTS)
   > > There are also 6O black cherry/burgandy and Black
   > > and 30 in Yellow/Gold and Black.
   > >
   > > >>>Given this car's Italo-American hybrid status, it seems quite
   likely
   > > that this was not one of the 150 GTS Panteras, but rather a one-off
   > > custom car that wore a conventional VIN. Simply looking at the VIN
   and
   > > body service number will reveal all.
   > > Mike
   > >
   > >
   >
   >
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