[DeTomaso] 1974 DETOMASO PANTERA GTS ORIGINAL, UNRESTORED PROTOTYPE - $85000
michael at michaelshortt.com
michael at michaelshortt.com
Thu Dec 18 16:52:33 EST 2014
My 150 GTS and color information comes directly
from the MartiReport files (which comes directly from
FoMoCo), only 1974 shows any US GTS models.
Curious that your 98 figure and 52 figure do equal
150 total cars as well.
Since lots of 74 models of everything where also made
in 73, perhaps it is semantics and poor record keeping.
Have you actually seen a 1973 US GTS on a title?
If so, please share, i'd love to show it to Marti.
As with all Pantera records...little makes sense
and don't correct me on that, I have tons of records
of cars with out of whack dates and build dates
out of order with calendar dates, 100 cars apart,
with the latter serial number finished before the earlier
car was even started ( waiting on parts???).
Michael
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/18/14 9 55 52, michael at michaelshortt.com writes:
>
> IMHO Opinion...Puffery.
> I have no idea why one would prototype
> a trim package that had been made for years.
>
> >>>Well, this car is certainly unusual. Calling it a 'prototype' is
> more than a bit of a stretch. My understanding is that it is a
> special-order car built for a Ford exec. As such, it is a odd hybrid
> between the USA and Euro models. It has the Euro interior (upholstered
> in leather or vinyl, can't really tell, and alcantara or velour
> apparently), but the USA bumpers. It has USA gauges and switches but a
> Euro GTS steering wheel.
>
> >GTS models were made in Europe
> in previous years, it is true that US GTS models
> were only made in 1974. 150 of them in total.
>
> >>>The first part is not true--a considerable percentage of the
> US-market GTS Panteras were made in 1973, and those sold in California
> were apparently titled as 1973 cars to get around more onorous 1974
> smog restrictions. It's often mistakingly said that only 98 US-market
> GTS Panteras were made; that fails to account for the 52 1973 models
> (California cars).
> All US-market GTS Panteras wore standard wheels (7- and 8-inch). Note
> that the flares are painted black on this car, which is another Kustom
> touch.
>
> >This would be 1 of 60 made in silver/black
> (if the serial tag confirms it is a GTS)
> There are also 6O black cherry/burgandy and Black
> and 30 in Yellow/Gold and Black.
>
> >>>Given this car's Italo-American hybrid status, it seems quite likely
> that this was not one of the 150 GTS Panteras, but rather a one-off
> custom car that wore a conventional VIN. Simply looking at the VIN and
> body service number will reveal all.
> Mike
>
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My 150 GTS and color information comes directly
from the MartiReport files (which comes directly fromA
FoMoCo), only 1974 shows any US GTS models.
Curious that your 98 figure and 52 figure do equalA
150 total cars as well.
Since lots of 74 models of everything where also madeA
in 73, perhaps it is semantics and poor record keeping.
Have you actually seen a 1973 US GTS on a title?
If so, please share, i'd love to show it to Marti.
As with all Pantera records...little makes sense
and don't correct me on that, I have tons of records
of cars with out of whack dates and build dates
out of order with calendar dates, 100 cars apart,
with the latter serial number finished before the earlier
car was even started ( waiting on parts???).
Michael
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A In a message dated 12/18/14 9 55 52,
[2]michael at michaelshortt.com writes:
A A A IMHO Opinion...Puffery.
A A A I have no idea why one would prototype
A A A a trim package that had been made for years.
A A >>>Well, this car is certainly unusual.A Calling it a
'prototype' is
A A more than a bit of a stretch.A My understanding is that it is
a
A A special-order car built for a Ford exec.A As such, it is a odd
hybrid
A A between the USA and Euro models.A It has the Euro interior
(upholstered
A A in leather or vinyl, can't really tell, and alcantara or velour
A A apparently), but the USA bumpers.A It has USA gauges and
switches but a
A A Euro GTS steering wheel.
A A A >GTS models were made in Europe
A A A in previous years, it is true that US GTS models
A A A were only made in 1974. 150 of them in total.
A A >>>The first part is not true--a considerable percentage of the
A A US-market GTS Panteras were made in 1973, and those sold in
California
A A were apparently titled as 1973 cars to get around more onorous
1974
A A smog restrictions.A It's often mistakingly said that only 98
US-market
A A GTS Panteras were made; that fails to account for the 52 1973
models
A A (California cars).
A A All US-market GTS Panteras wore standard wheels (7- and
8-inch).A Note
A A that the flares are painted black on this car, which is another
Kustom
A A touch.
A A A >This would be 1 of 60 made in silver/black
A A A (if the serial tag confirms it is a GTS)
A A A There are also 6O black cherry/burgandy and Black
A A A and 30 in Yellow/Gold and Black.
A A >>>Given this car's Italo-American hybrid status, it seems
quite likely
A A that this was not one of the 150 GTS Panteras, but rather a
one-off
A A custom car that wore a conventional VIN.A Simply looking at
the VIN and
A A body service number will reveal all.
A A Mike
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