[DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
Larry - Ohio Time
Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Wed Aug 20 13:14:46 EDT 2014
<< Anthropomorphism is the attribution of *human characteristics to
machines>>
Boyd are you saying my cars no longer have balls?
Larry (someone need to check) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Casey
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:06 PM
To: Jeff Detrich
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Larry Finch
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
Mike Short makes a good point when he mentions that Larry is
assigning anthropomorphic
attributes to parts of his Pantera.( Anthropomorphism is the attribution
of *human characteristics to machines or animals). **If Larry (or anyone
else) thinks that their automobiles fans ( or any other component ) is not
operating up to specifications they can easily measure the effectiveness of
the system in question. You can easily obtain a variety of devices that
are capable of measuring the actual airflow, rpm of the fan blades etc. As
an example for measuring CFM ( which can be useful for measuring air flow
for cooling or for air intake for the engine** , **Carburetion, **Fu**el
injection etc.) This link shows a small sample of some of the devices
.http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en
<http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en>
This removes the question of wondering if your car or fans are"tired" and
replaces the *Anthropomorphic attributes with technically appropriate and
scientifically accurate measurement devices. Although many of us like to
assign a name and or a gender to our favorite "Toys" which I believe can
actually enhance the ownership experience when it comes to maintaining
peak operating performance it is necessary to rely on technology and not
asking our Cat " If it's a little tired"
Boyd
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> Check your fan grounds.
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Larry Finch <[1]fresnofinches at aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> A A All,
> A A I've come to the conclusion the Hall Pantera Meriah fans are
> getting
> A A tired and are not up to the task of slow traffic cooling.
> A A I say this because in Summer/Winter I now always see a large
> jump in
> A A temp when I get into city traffic versus highway travel. 20-30
> degrees
> A A jump. Wasn't always that way.
> A A I would rather not remount the three-pass Quella/Ron Francis
> radiator
> A A for sucker fans, so I'm looking at pushers.
> A A Felx-a-lite offers model 440 as a pusher. 2500 cfm, S-blades,
> etc.
> A A But I noted the online-available PDF installation sheet groups
> the 440
> A A pusher and the 420 puller in the same section.
> A A It instructs the 420 puller to be wired red/red and
> black/black, fan to
> A A power source. And to reverse the wiring to red/black and
> black/red for
> A A the 440 pusher model. This tells me the fan blades are expected
> to
> A A perform whether rotating CW or CCW. But I've always heard
> blades are
> A A optimal for one direction only, and show reduced efficiency
> when
> A A rotating opposite to the intended function.
> A A I will try to talk with a Flex-a-lite tech about this on
> Monday, but in
> A A the meantime I'm asking for any of your ideas, thoughts and
> A A suggestions.
> A A Thanks,
> A A Larry
> A A ......and no, I don't know why my emails (at least in the
> archives) are
> A A now getting duplicated by the List software.
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<< Anthropomorphism is the attribution of *human characteristics to
machines>>
Boyd are you saying my cars no longer have balls?
Larry (someone need to check) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
Casey
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:06 PM
To: Jeff Detrich
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Larry Finch
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
Mike Short makes a good point when he mentions that Larry is
assigning anthropomorphic
attributes to parts of his Pantera.( Anthropomorphism is the
attribution
of *human characteristics to machines or animals). **If Larry (or
anyone
else) thinks that their automobiles fans ( or any other component ) is
not
operating up to specifications they can easily measure the
effectiveness of
the system in question. You can easily obtain a variety of devices
that
are capable of measuring the actual airflow, rpm of the fan blades etc.
As
an example for measuring CFM ( which can be useful for measuring air
flow
for cooling or for air intake for the engine** , **Carburetion,
**Fu**el
injection etc.) This link shows a small sample of some of the devices
.http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=
UTF-8#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en
<http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=
UTF-8#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en>
This removes the question of wondering if your car or fans are"tired"
and
replaces the *Anthropomorphic attributes with technically appropriate
and
scientifically accurate measurement devices. Although many of us like
to
assign a name and or a gender to our favorite "Toys" which I believe
can
actually enhance the ownership experience when it comes to maintaining
peak operating performance it is necessary to rely on technology and
not
asking our Cat " If it's a little tired"
Boyd
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Check your fan grounds.
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Larry Finch
<[1]fresnofinches at aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> A A All,
> A A I've come to the conclusion the Hall Pantera Meriah fans
are
> getting
> A A tired and are not up to the task of slow traffic cooling.
> A A I say this because in Summer/Winter I now always see a
large
> jump in
> A A temp when I get into city traffic versus highway travel.
20-30
> degrees
> A A jump. Wasn't always that way.
> A A I would rather not remount the three-pass Quella/Ron
Francis
> radiator
> A A for sucker fans, so I'm looking at pushers.
> A A Felx-a-lite offers model 440 as a pusher. 2500 cfm,
S-blades,
> etc.
> A A But I noted the online-available PDF installation sheet
groups
> the 440
> A A pusher and the 420 puller in the same section.
> A A It instructs the 420 puller to be wired red/red and
> black/black, fan to
> A A power source. And to reverse the wiring to red/black and
> black/red for
> A A the 440 pusher model. This tells me the fan blades are
expected
> to
> A A perform whether rotating CW or CCW. But I've always heard
> blades are
> A A optimal for one direction only, and show reduced efficiency
> when
> A A rotating opposite to the intended function.
> A A I will try to talk with a Flex-a-lite tech about this on
> Monday, but in
> A A the meantime I'm asking for any of your ideas, thoughts and
> A A suggestions.
> A A Thanks,
> A A Larry
> A A ......and no, I don't know why my emails (at least in the
> archives) are
> A A now getting duplicated by the List software.
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>
> 1. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
> 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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