[DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question

Larry - Ohio Time Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Wed Aug 20 13:14:46 EDT 2014


<< Anthropomorphism is the attribution of *human characteristics to
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Boyd are you saying my cars no longer have balls?
 
Larry (someone need to check) - Cleveland
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Casey
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:06 PM
To: Jeff Detrich
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Larry Finch
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
 
 Mike Short makes a good point  when he mentions that Larry is
assigning  anthropomorphic
attributes to parts of his Pantera.(  Anthropomorphism is the attribution
of *human characteristics to machines or animals). **If Larry (or anyone
else)  thinks that their automobiles fans ( or any other component ) is not
operating up to specifications they can easily measure the effectiveness of
the system in question.  You can easily obtain a variety of devices that
are capable of measuring the actual airflow, rpm of the fan blades etc. As
an example for measuring CFM ( which can be useful for measuring air flow
for cooling or for  air intake for the engine** , **Carburetion, **Fu**el
injection etc.)  This link  shows a small sample of some of the devices
.http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en
<http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en>
 This removes the question of wondering if your car or fans are"tired"  and
replaces the *Anthropomorphic attributes with technically appropriate and
scientifically accurate measurement devices. Although many of us like to
assign a name and or a gender to our favorite "Toys" which I believe can
actually enhance the ownership experience  when it comes to maintaining
peak operating performance it is necessary to rely on technology and not
asking our Cat " If it's a little tired"
 
Boyd
 
 
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
 
>    Check your fan grounds.
>    Jeff
>    6559
> 
>    On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Larry Finch <[1]fresnofinches at aol.com>
>    wrote:
> 
>      A  A All,
>      A  A I've come to the conclusion the Hall Pantera Meriah fans are
>      getting
>      A  A tired and are not up to the task of slow traffic cooling.
>      A  A I say this because in Summer/Winter I now always see a large
>      jump in
>      A  A temp when I get into city traffic versus highway travel. 20-30
>      degrees
>      A  A jump. Wasn't always that way.
>      A  A I would rather not remount the three-pass Quella/Ron Francis
>      radiator
>      A  A for sucker fans, so I'm looking at pushers.
>      A  A Felx-a-lite offers model 440 as a pusher. 2500 cfm, S-blades,
>      etc.
>      A  A But I noted the online-available PDF installation sheet groups
>      the 440
>      A  A pusher and the 420 puller in the same section.
>      A  A It instructs the 420 puller to be wired red/red and
>      black/black, fan to
>      A  A power source. And to reverse the wiring to red/black and
>      black/red for
>      A  A the 440 pusher model. This tells me the fan blades are expected
>      to
>      A  A perform whether rotating CW or CCW. But I've always heard
>      blades are
>      A  A optimal for one direction only, and show reduced efficiency
>      when
>      A  A rotating opposite to the intended function.
>      A  A I will try to talk with a Flex-a-lite tech about this on
>      Monday, but in
>      A  A the meantime I'm asking for any of your ideas, thoughts and
>      A  A suggestions.
>      A  A Thanks,
>      A  A Larry
>      A  A ......and no, I don't know why my emails (at least in the
>      archives) are
>      A  A now getting duplicated by the List software.
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> References
> 
>    1. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
>    2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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   << Anthropomorphism is the attribution of *human characteristics to
   machines>>


   Boyd are you saying my cars no longer have balls?


   Larry (someone need to check) - Cleveland




   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
   Casey
   Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:06 PM
   To: Jeff Detrich
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Larry Finch
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question


    Mike Short makes a good point  when he mentions that Larry is

   assigning  anthropomorphic

   attributes to parts of his Pantera.(  Anthropomorphism is the
   attribution

   of *human characteristics to machines or animals). **If Larry (or
   anyone

   else)  thinks that their automobiles fans ( or any other component ) is
   not

   operating up to specifications they can easily measure the
   effectiveness of

   the system in question.  You can easily obtain a variety of devices
   that

   are capable of measuring the actual airflow, rpm of the fan blades etc.
   As

   an example for measuring CFM ( which can be useful for measuring air
   flow

   for cooling or for  air intake for the engine** , **Carburetion,
   **Fu**el

   injection etc.)  This link  shows a small sample of some of the devices

   .http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=
   UTF-8#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en

   <http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=
   UTF-8#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en>

    This removes the question of wondering if your car or fans are"tired"
   and

   replaces the *Anthropomorphic attributes with technically appropriate
   and

   scientifically accurate measurement devices. Although many of us like
   to

   assign a name and or a gender to our favorite "Toys" which I believe
   can

   actually enhance the ownership experience  when it comes to maintaining

   peak operating performance it is necessary to rely on technology and
   not

   asking our Cat " If it's a little tired"


   Boyd



   On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   wrote:


   >    Check your fan grounds.

   >    Jeff

   >    6559

   >

   >    On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Larry Finch
   <[1]fresnofinches at aol.com>

   >    wrote:

   >

   >      A  A All,

   >      A  A I've come to the conclusion the Hall Pantera Meriah fans
   are

   >      getting

   >      A  A tired and are not up to the task of slow traffic cooling.

   >      A  A I say this because in Summer/Winter I now always see a
   large

   >      jump in

   >      A  A temp when I get into city traffic versus highway travel.
   20-30

   >      degrees

   >      A  A jump. Wasn't always that way.

   >      A  A I would rather not remount the three-pass Quella/Ron
   Francis

   >      radiator

   >      A  A for sucker fans, so I'm looking at pushers.

   >      A  A Felx-a-lite offers model 440 as a pusher. 2500 cfm,
   S-blades,

   >      etc.

   >      A  A But I noted the online-available PDF installation sheet
   groups

   >      the 440

   >      A  A pusher and the 420 puller in the same section.

   >      A  A It instructs the 420 puller to be wired red/red and

   >      black/black, fan to

   >      A  A power source. And to reverse the wiring to red/black and

   >      black/red for

   >      A  A the 440 pusher model. This tells me the fan blades are
   expected

   >      to

   >      A  A perform whether rotating CW or CCW. But I've always heard

   >      blades are

   >      A  A optimal for one direction only, and show reduced efficiency

   >      when

   >      A  A rotating opposite to the intended function.

   >      A  A I will try to talk with a Flex-a-lite tech about this on

   >      Monday, but in

   >      A  A the meantime I'm asking for any of your ideas, thoughts and

   >      A  A suggestions.

   >      A  A Thanks,

   >      A  A Larry

   >      A  A ......and no, I don't know why my emails (at least in the

   >      archives) are

   >      A  A now getting duplicated by the List software.

   >      _______________________________________________

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   >      [2]DeTomaso at poca.com

   >      [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

   >

   > References

   >

   >    1. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com

   >    2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com

   >    3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

   >

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