[DeTomaso] New Stainless steel headers / exhaust

[Mike Thomas]

If your Mindtrains can be repaired, and you like the look and sound, I'd do
that and see if a ball flange connection can be retrofit to the system.
That would be much cheaper than buying a whole new system.  Do you need new
headers?  Some depends on the look you are going for: I like the original
look of the Wilkinson system, but that's at the back end, which sounds like
the part you want to keep.  I'm sure a good muffler shop could also mod the
Mindtrain pipes to match the Wilkinson SS headers with a flared connection
to match the ball on the header.  You have options.

 

Good luck.

Mike

 

From: Boyd Casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:25 AM
To: Mike Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Stainless steel headers / exhaust

 

Thank you Mike. So to be sure I understand you, you are saying that if you
could you would use your Mind  Train mufflers with the new SS headers, is
that correct?

Hugh (Boyd)

 

On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net
<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:

That was Steve Wilkinson, who did a co-op deal with Santiago DeTomaso to
make (I think) 500 sets of both stainless and non-stainless headers and
pipes.  They only did one tip angle, but they look great on both L and Pre-L
cars.  I have a set of the SS on 6328, and sold my Mindtrains to put them
on.  They have a more mellow tone than the Mindtrains, not so much like an
old speed boat, as my wife tells me.  They did take a bit of "massaging" to
fit them in, and the quality of the black paint could have been better
(baked off the mufflers in the first couple hundred miles), but the ball
flange mate between the header and pipe makes getting a tight fit at the
right tip angle/alignment a breeze.  If I still had my Mindtrains, it take
them in to be retrofit for a ball flange connection.
Mike Thomas
VP, POCA
VP, Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328




-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com> ] On Behalf Of Boyd Casey
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:22 AM
To: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> 
Subject: [DeTomaso] New Stainless steel headers / exhaust

Greetings Pantera Brethren,
I recall some posts in the last 6 months / year about one of our Pantera
vendors  having a new S.S. exhaust setup he had manufactured and was selling
and it was well received and there were  allot of discussions about them for
awhile . At the time I wasn't in need of a new exhaust so I didn't give it
allot of thought. I think it may have been Steve Wilkinson.
I heard an unusual sound coming form my car the other day and upon
inspection I discovered that the tab that attaches my left "Mind train"
muffler had broken off at the weld and there was a hole around the size of
an oblong quarter. It may be repairable because it doesn't appear to be
rusted out. I really like my mind train mufflers and "Hall big bore"
headers and would prefer to keep them, but in the event they need to be
replaced the S.S. headers mentioned in the aforementioned posts sounded
good. Can some one refresh my memory about these? And any other suggestions
or comments would also be welcomed.
Thanks,
Boyd

 

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   If your Mindtrains can be repaired, and you like the look and sound,
   I'd do that and see if a ball flange connection can be retrofit to the
   system.  That would be much cheaper than buying a whole new system.  Do
   you need new headers?  Some depends on the look you are going for: I
   like the original look of the Wilkinson system, but that's at the back
   end, which sounds like the part you want to keep.  I'm sure a good
   muffler shop could also mod the Mindtrain pipes to match the Wilkinson
   SS headers with a flared connection to match the ball on the header.
   You have options.


   Good luck.

   Mike


   From: Boyd Casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com]
   Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:25 AM
   To: Mike Thomas
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Stainless steel headers / exhaust


   Thank you Mike. So to be sure I understand you, you are saying that if
   you could you would use your Mind  Train mufflers with the new SS
   headers, is that correct?

   Hugh (Boyd)


   On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Thomas
   <[1]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:

     That was Steve Wilkinson, who did a co-op deal with Santiago
     DeTomaso to
     make (I think) 500 sets of both stainless and non-stainless headers
     and
     pipes.  They only did one tip angle, but they look great on both L
     and Pre-L
     cars.  I have a set of the SS on 6328, and sold my Mindtrains to put
     them
     on.  They have a more mellow tone than the Mindtrains, not so much
     like an
     old speed boat, as my wife tells me.  They did take a bit of
     "massaging" to
     fit them in, and the quality of the black paint could have been
     better
     (baked off the mufflers in the first couple hundred miles), but the
     ball
     flange mate between the header and pipe makes getting a tight fit at
     the
     right tip angle/alignment a breeze.  If I still had my Mindtrains,
     it take
     them in to be retrofit for a ball flange connection.
     Mike Thomas
     VP, POCA
     VP, Panteras Northwest
     Yellow '74 #6328

   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
   Casey
   Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:22 AM
   To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] New Stainless steel headers / exhaust
   Greetings Pantera Brethren,
   I recall some posts in the last 6 months / year about one of our
   Pantera
   vendors  having a new S.S. exhaust setup he had manufactured and was
   selling
   and it was well received and there were  allot of discussions about
   them for
   awhile . At the time I wasn't in need of a new exhaust so I didn't give
   it
   allot of thought. I think it may have been Steve Wilkinson.
   I heard an unusual sound coming form my car the other day and upon
   inspection I discovered that the tab that attaches my left "Mind train"
   muffler had broken off at the weld and there was a hole around the size
   of
   an oblong quarter. It may be repairable because it doesn't appear to be
   rusted out. I really like my mind train mufflers and "Hall big bore"
   headers and would prefer to keep them, but in the event they need to be
   replaced the S.S. headers mentioned in the aforementioned posts sounded
   good. Can some one refresh my memory about these? And any other
   suggestions
   or comments would also be welcomed.
   Thanks,
   Boyd

References

   1. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com