[DeTomaso] Wanted - scientific car wax results
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com
Sun Apr 6 17:22:28 EDT 2014
Charlie,
No scientific results to back this up, but I have been using a modern glaze imported from Germany called Klasse. It is very easy to apply. You must use very thin (like barely ANY) coats and buff it off on a per-panel basis as you go. Using too much (or waiting too long to buff) will require a LOT of buffing effort to get a deep wet shine (which it will do either way). I use it on my dark cars because there is no white dust at all. It is also very hard when dried. Works especially well on modern paints. I bought two small bottles two years ago and am barely halfway through one.
I like the 100% carnuba waxes as well, but I find that I need to use a “quick detailer” mist and clean cloth afterwards just to remove all the wax dust.
Good luck,
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com
On Apr 6, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> What now seems like a billion years ago, but was probably 20-25 years
> ago, Consumer Reports did a full and impartial test of car waxes.
>
>
> They bought a dozen varieties and followed the instructions. The
> results were classified based on categories such as "durability after
> 30 trips through the car wash", "ease of application/removal", "gloss
> to the untrained eye", "amount of powder produced" and I forget what
> else. The winner was some exotic was that cost $80 a bottle, while the
> second place wax, which was a mere 1 point behind, was a Meguir's
> product that I have faithfully used for the past 20 years as a result
> of that study.
>
>
> It is easy to apply, it is easy to remove. It doesn't leave powder
> everywhere. It leaves a nice shine and leaves the paint extremely
> slippery. I don't have to apply it very often, as water beads up
> heavily for quite some time after application. I have happily used the
> product for years, confident that it is the best bang for the buck,
> based on an impartial and scientific study. For me, this adds more
> value that anecdotal evidence such as someone saying "I use wax X and
> it works well". Unless you compare X to Y under the same conditions,
> how can you not know if Y works even better?
>
>
> Anyway, over here in Spain I've run out of my favorite Meguirs. So I
> used a 100% Carnuba that I got for Christmas on the daily driver BMW,
> and am horrified. It's the same brand that Johnny Woods uses on his
> Pantera (and actually sells) so if you've ever seen his car then you
> know that it makes things shiny. But it is a huuuuuge pain to remove.
> It requires a tremendous amount of force and scrubbing millimeter by
> millimeter to get the stuff off. I have wax powder everywhere - all the
> seams, it seems like the whole car is covered in a fine powder. I'd
> guess it took at least 3-4 times longer than the Meguir's due to the
> difficulty of removal - you really need to scrub hard to get the stuff
> off.
>
>
> All that time trying to get the damn stuff off made it clear to me that
> I need to buy more wax. But if I want to buy the best possible miracle
> wax, is anyone aware of a study where they compare the various brands
> back-to-back to determine which one is really the "best"? The study I
> saw recommended some products if your goal was Pebble Beach as the
> product worked well but lasted 24 hours, other products if you planned
> to wax the car once in its lifetime, and another for "regular" waxing
> every few months. By rating the various characteristics - durability,
> ease of application, price, ease of removal, gloss, whatever, you could
> pick the best product for your use.
>
>
> Anyone still subscribe to Consumer Reports? Anyone know of another
> impartial study? Thanks!
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Charlie,
No scientific results to back this up, but I have been using a modern
glaze imported from Germany called Klasse. It is very easy to apply.
You must use very thin (like barely ANY) coats and buff it off on a
per-panel basis as you go. Using too much (or waiting too long to buff)
will require a LOT of buffing effort to get a deep wet shine (which it
will do either way). I use it on my dark cars because there is no white
dust at all. It is also very hard when dried. Works especially well on
modern paints. I bought two small bottles two years ago and am barely
halfway through one.
I like the 100% carnuba waxes as well, but I find that I need to use a
"quick detailer" mist and clean cloth afterwards just to remove all the
wax dust.
Good luck,
Mark Charlton
[1]pantera01826 at rogers.com
[cid:DA676F68-09FE-4345-832E-DDDB3733C7A6 at phub.net.cable.rogers.com]
On Apr 6, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Charles McCall <[2]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi all
What now seems like a billion years ago, but was probably 20-25
years
ago, Consumer Reports did a full and impartial test of car waxes.
They bought a dozen varieties and followed the instructions. The
results were classified based on categories such as "durability
after
30 trips through the car wash", "ease of application/removal",
"gloss
to the untrained eye", "amount of powder produced" and I forget
what
else. The winner was some exotic was that cost $80 a bottle, while
the
second place wax, which was a mere 1 point behind, was a Meguir's
product that I have faithfully used for the past 20 years as a
result
of that study.
It is easy to apply, it is easy to remove. It doesn't leave powder
everywhere. It leaves a nice shine and leaves the paint extremely
slippery. I don't have to apply it very often, as water beads up
heavily for quite some time after application. I have happily used
the
product for years, confident that it is the best bang for the
buck,
based on an impartial and scientific study. For me, this adds more
value that anecdotal evidence such as someone saying "I use wax X
and
it works well". Unless you compare X to Y under the same
conditions,
how can you not know if Y works even better?
Anyway, over here in Spain I've run out of my favorite Meguirs. So
I
used a 100% Carnuba that I got for Christmas on the daily driver
BMW,
and am horrified. It's the same brand that Johnny Woods uses on
his
Pantera (and actually sells) so if you've ever seen his car then
you
know that it makes things shiny. But it is a huuuuuge pain to
remove.
It requires a tremendous amount of force and scrubbing millimeter
by
millimeter to get the stuff off. I have wax powder everywhere -
all the
seams, it seems like the whole car is covered in a fine powder.
I'd
guess it took at least 3-4 times longer than the Meguir's due to
the
difficulty of removal - you really need to scrub hard to get the
stuff
off.
All that time trying to get the damn stuff off made it clear to me
that
I need to buy more wax. But if I want to buy the best possible
miracle
wax, is anyone aware of a study where they compare the various
brands
back-to-back to determine which one is really the "best"? The
study I
saw recommended some products if your goal was Pebble Beach as the
product worked well but lasted 24 hours, other products if you
planned
to wax the car once in its lifetime, and another for "regular"
waxing
every few months. By rating the various characteristics -
durability,
ease of application, price, ease of removal, gloss, whatever, you
could
pick the best product for your use.
Anyone still subscribe to Consumer Reports? Anyone know of another
impartial study? Thanks!
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