[DeTomaso] NPC - POCA IT

Sun Sep 1 13:31:44 EDT 2013

What folks are failing to address are TWO things.

1) Almost any forum can give you the same functionality as the email forum, you can get ALL the post sent to you as an email or
multiple emails. You simply set it up that way.

2) Why don't some people use the PI forum that has HUNDREDS of members and a lot of contributors. I have heard from 2 people that
have a reason for not using it. It is interesting that those that talk about the forums, they seem to pretend the PI forum doesn't
exist.

Sorry, I miscounted... 3) I worked for HP for 33 years and $10,000 per page is ridicules. I could possibly help with a new web page.

Scott (still in the dark about what the issue is with the PI forum) 

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 6:55 AM
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - POCA IT

POCA originally made a request for bids way back before the present web
site was put in place.  The cost at that time was approximately
$10,000.  Generally speaking anytime I've heard bids for "others" to
construct web pages, it's about a thousand dollars per page and any
extra stuff like scripts and databases and online payments (like for
memberships) costs even more.  Today's prices might be even higher.

Get members to run it.
So much easier said than done.  I'm probably one of the youngest members
and moderately web savvy, but I don't have time to take care of the POCA
web site all by myself.  It took me many more hours than I had planned
just to transfer the email forum over several months ago.  It takes a
lot of time and effort to keep things up to the "high standards" that
keep people from "complaining."  Sadly, the overwhelming majority of
owners are older than the kids who do web sites in their sleep and own
newer cars and give their time to those local car clubs that have great
web sites.

Why do we have two forums?
That was easy.  When the new web site was put in place, people were
encouraged to use the new online forum, especially as many folks had
requested it and said the email forum was outdated.  Instead of
"forcing" people to use it, since many liked the email forum, we kept
both.  Apparently, the email forum won out despite the best efforts of a
handful of folks (who I respect greatly) to try and help others use it. 
If the online forum were the better option for everyone, then I think
everyone would be there.  Nothing is keeping you subscribed to this
email forum, use the online one instead.

The POCA site needs to be updated.
Sure, it's a few years old now so naturally it needs to be replaced,
like your latest cell phone.  That's why the present board of directors
has engaged new resources who are presently doing research.  I can't
tell you what their up to... I'm not part of that effort but I -have-
made recommendations, like making it easier to pay online and get the
access thing cleared up faster.  But there are still those older members
who like to pay by sending a check, so you have to figure out how to get
them taken care of too.

If anyone out there thinks they can do a better job, has the time and
would -like- to help, email the board of directors.

Asa

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 8/26/2013 6:07 AM, Mikael wrote:
> All, what is the aim of POCA? Is it to grow and have as many POCA members
> from the US and the World as possible? To the benefit of our Panteras? If
> no, stop reading, if yes, read on.
>
> We need to seriously upgrade our IT. We're members here because we like
> classic cars, not classic IT, right? :-)
>
> 1. The way we pay. I know more than one past member that shall remain
> nameless, that are no longer members because they find the envelope back and
> forth things too much to be bothered with. OK, not the end of the world, but
> we should be able to pay our membership dues online in 2 minutes. Make it
> easy for the customer to spend their money is rule #1
> 2. The mail list. It should be a Forum! Yes, a Forum with pictures, easy
> search facilities, banner lines, avatars etc.. And to those that love the
> current mail stream, there is not much if anything our mail stream can do
> that a Forum can't do. PI Forum as example, you can have a mail every time a
> topic that interests you gets answered, or you can have as I prefer a daily
> mail with all the activity. And pictures! Did I mention pictures? Many
> people ask their questions on PI, not because the group of people in there
> are better at answering, but because of the ease of using it
> 3. Home page could also be improved, all webpages can, but 1. and 2. are the
> most important
>
> When you attend a POCA Fun Rally as we did in spring, you're amazed at the
> arrangement. So much dedication and hard work put into it. So it's not a
> club where there are no resources to draw from. We must have somebody
> IT-literate enough to change these things, and it can't be too expensive,
> small local clubs can manage. And it will increase # of members without a
> doubt. Do we want that?
>
> No, I'm not running for president, and I'm not IT-literate, I'm just a POCA
> member that benefits a lot from this membership and would like to see POCA
> grow.  
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> Mvh/Regards
> Mikael
>
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