[DeTomaso] Exporting Cars

Thu Oct 10 21:30:10 EDT 2013

I have sold a lot of cars and I have always sold them " as is where is" FOB
is a condition of business contracts that usually fever to goods involved
in export / import and are included in the terms of the contract. Personaly
I would not recommend attempting to add anything to the car in question (
like number plates or stamping a number on the block) the seller would be
opening himself up to charges of fraud which is criminal as well as civil
damages if the buyer suffered a financial loss as a result of the sellers
actions. If ( and it's a BIG IF) this had not all been discussed on an
Internet forum it might be possible to pull it off ( but I still wouldn't
advise it because it is inherently dishonest) but now that it has been
discussed on the Internet it is an indelible part of history and the record
of discussing the changed engine as well as ways to circumvent the problems
with the Chilean government's regulations is part of that record. It is
doomed to failure and consequences far worse the losing a sale of a
Pantera. Why not try to broker a sale of a Pantera that meets the Chilean G
overn ment' conditions  ( there are certainly enough Panteras for sale) and
make a fee for making the deal. the seller would profit, he wouldn't be
breaking any laws or moral codes and he would still have his Pantera to
sell to another buyer. As we used to say in the retail car biz " there's an
ass for every seat".
Boyd

On Thursday, October 10, 2013, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:

> Yep.   It's called FOB.  I used to think it meant "Freight On Board"  but
> after lookup;
>
> "Designation of the passing of risk of loss of goods from seller to buyer.
>
> Free on Board (FOB) indicates that the seller is responsible for getting
> the goods onto a ship designated by the buyer.  At this point, the risk of
> loss passes from the seller to the buyer."
>
>
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> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com <javascript:;><mailto:
> julian_kift at hotmail.com <javascript:;>>>
> Date: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:05 PM
> To: Ian Hannington <ihannington286720mi at comcast.net <javascript:;><mailto:
> ihannington286720mi at comcast.net <javascript:;>>>, 'The DeTomaso Registry
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Exporting Cars
>
> Surely the car would be sold ponit of sale and the new owner responsible
> for transport, duties etc. Once it's gone from your hands (only after
> payment in full) it is not your problem if the Chilean Government deem it
> inadmissible.
> Julian
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> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:44:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Exporting Cars
> That was my thought too.  I don't have a Motor # Plate and there is no #
> stamped on the block, so what's to stop me from buying the plate from a
> vendor and stamping both the same? It's not like they can check the records
> of De Tomaso.
> I suppose there is always the risk that the Chilean government does not
> allow it in the country.  Then I'd be stuck having to get it back here and
> pay for all the expenses to get it there and back plus fees, plus taxes
> plus........... That would suck!  I may run it by the buyer and see what he
> thinks anyway.
> Ian
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> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:02 PM
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> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Exporting Cars
> I have never heard this before.
> I'm looking at your registry entry right now, and I don't even see an id
> plate wearing the block number.   (Your foot box plate does not show, nor
> does the block number plate that is usually in the engine bay, on the left
> side.)
> So..... Just how would the Chilean authorities even know?
> While the registry used to have a car registered in Chile, I think it
> moved... otherwise the owner would be a good 2nd opinion.
> Chuck
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> Behalf Of Ian
> Hannington
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Exporting Cars
> I have been trying to sell my car to a person who lives in Chile.  We got
> to
> the point where he was about to transfer the money, but he wanted to check
> with his government to make sure he had everything covered.  Anyway, now he
> tells me that they will not allow him to import the car because the engine
> is not original and therefore the numbers don't match.  Anyone ever come
> across this when selling a car overseas?
>
> Thanks,
> Ian
>
>
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