[DeTomaso] Rubbing inner fender wells

[Stephen Nelson]

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From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of Boyd Casey
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:10 PM
To: Melanie Disco
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; JDeRyke at aol.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rubbing inner fender wells

I don't have Campys I have custom made 3 piece forged wheels that were made
based on the measurements I made. I purchased a device that can be used to
measure off set and back space for what ever diameter wheel you would like
to use. I am running 235/40 18's on the front and 335/30 19's on the back.
I made sure that the outside diameter of my new tires was not larger then
the outside diameter of my old 15" Campys. In order to run oversize wheels
and tires with the least amount of problems you have to prepare your car
first. I found that it was necessary to roll the  fender lips. I bought a
tool that has multiple adjustments and a polyurethane roller (looks like a
skate wheel) to roll down your fender lip. Lots of people do the same thing
with a baseball bat. I know you are talking about rubbing on the inside but
while we are on the subject I thought it merited mentioning.
My front wheels only rub on extreme right turn lock. I rarely turn my
wheels that far even when making a u turn but even at full lock it has not
presented a problem. There should never be an occasion when you have to
turn your wheels that far while you are actually driving at anything over 1
or 2 mph.
The idea of trying to reduce the areas of contact seems like a good idea
with one exception. On my car (and from what I have heard anecdotal one
area of contact is the wiper motor cover at the back of the right front
wheel well. I would not suggest hammering on it although you can remove it
and replace it with a modified cover that does not extend out quite as far.
Boyd


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 5:00 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:

> Excellent idea!
>
> The next time the front wheels are off, I'm doing that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:03 PM, <JDeRyke at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 8/16/13 12:31:24 PM, steve at snclocks.com writes:
> >
> > > It has 245/45 Michelins mounted on the front.  I note that the tires
> rub
> > > the
> > > inner fenders during a tight turn.  For those of you with 15 X 8
> Campys -
> > > does anyone know what the maximum width one can go on without inner
> > fender
> > > rub?  Does one get inner-fender rub with 225 width tires?
> > >
> > Its well known a 245-50 x anything with 8.9" wide treads on 8" Campys
> will
> > rub the inner fenders in several places, mostly in hard turns while
> braking
> > or while fully loaded. My info is only for CAmpy wheels; if your wheels
> set
> > inboard even further, you can try spacers to move the treads outboard,
> but
> > be very careful of catching the outside lip of the fender in turns- even
> if
> > rounded off as per the TSBs. Some owners ignore the rubbing with few ill
> > effects.
> > The simple fix for the noise it makes is to note the places where
> > paint/undercoat is rubbed off, tape a piece of 1/2" pipe on top of the
> rub
> > spots and
> > wham the pipe hard several times with a big hammer. This puts a neat
> > shallow
> > dent in the critical area. A quick spritz with spray paint finishes the
> > job. The gain in traction from 50% wider front tires and the reduction
in
> > understeer is well worth this 10 minute mod.
> > I suppose that narrower treads may not rub inside but at what exact
point
> > that happens will likely be specific to some cars & not others. I note
> the
> > stock 185-70x 15" tires had 5.8" wide treads and 225-50 x 15s have 7.9"
> > wide
> > treads.   Good luck- J Deryke
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