[DeTomaso] new Battery

Jack Donahue demongusta at me.com
Tue Apr 30 02:25:17 EDT 2013 

It's interesting reading this thread. Without knowing anyone else with a Pantera, I went through this very same thing with my Optima. I was laid up with a broken neck (and various limbs) and the Pantera went on ice for a year. And I remember bragging a little about the Optima, to friends with various cars. Well, when I went to charge it - no luck. It would take a 6amp charge after 6 days and not turn over. Threw it away, went traditional - happy and cheaper. Although I like the look of the Optima under the bonnet. 
On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:57 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:

> For my last battery (not in the Pantera mind you), I went the Sears 
> route.  The Platinum series (and Platinum only, not gold, not silver, 
> ONLY Platinum) is identical all the way down to the mold (except for 
> color of the plastic).  AGM baby, and I love it.  Less expensive than 
> buying an Odyssey direct or through another dealer.  Oh, and I ended up 
> with a slightly smaller battery size with the same power as what it had 
> replaced.
> 
> When I'm ready to buy a new one for the Pantera, it will be an AGM 
> battery, and most likely purchased from Sears.
> 
> Asa
> 
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> On 4/29/2013 4:43 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
>> I switched from Optima once they moved to offshore manufacturing quality has declined. The last one I took back the Summit Racing service guy didn't seem surprised and said that's the third one today! They have a bells&  whistles test trig for them now before issuing a warranty claim.
>> 
>> I'm using Odyssey and they have been great so far, bonus is that the Sears Die Hard Platinum  batteries are rebadged Odyssesy (only the Platinum, not the regular) and Sears offer a 48 month full warranty and 100 month pro-rated.
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:52:50 -0400
>>> From: boyd411 at gmail.com
>>> To: knottsj at galstar.com
>>> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] new Battery
>>> 
>>> I should have specified I was referring to the Optima batteries that had
>>> changed their warranty coverage as of 2/09.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jerry Knotts<knottsj at galstar.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That sounds a lot like Walmart "Neverstarts" . They couldn't improve
>>>> the battery and keep their margins. so they shortened the warranty. On
>>>> one of my dual battery diesel trucks, I have been through 5 batteries
>>>> under warranty in just over 2 years.
>>>> 
>>>> You wouldn't think that is what they mean by wanting return customers,
>>>> jerry knotts
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/29/2013 4:58 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>>>>> Well it wouldn't surprise me if their quality had changed, their warranty
>>>>> did!
>>>>> Prior to 2/09 it was full replacement for the first 36 moths and prorated
>>>>> for the second 36 months, after 2/09 I believe it is full for the first
>>>> 36
>>>>> months and then zip.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:13 PM, LS<lashdeep at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I bought one in 2001 and it lasted until last year with no maintenance
>>>> and
>>>>>> no charging.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've heard that the newer Optimas aren't what they were 10 yrs ago?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I replaced it with a Braile lightweight battery and have had good
>>>> results
>>>>>> so far.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Expensive, but much smaller and much lighter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LS
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com"<michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: gabc wabc<gow2 at rc-tech.net>
>>>>>> Cc: Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>; "detomaso at poca.com"<
>>>>>> detomaso at poca.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:09 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] new Battery
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have used them since they came on the market, the secret to charging
>>>> them
>>>>>> is low amps over a long period, like 2 amps for 48 hours.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I keep a Battery Tender on my toys when not at use at home, when
>>>> traveling,
>>>>>> aside from removing the steering wheel, I also disconnect the battery
>>>>>> for both the slight drain and for security, while a routine thief might
>>>>>> figure out how to reconnect the battery, I seriously doubt that they
>>>> carry
>>>>>> a steering wheel
>>>>>> and with the wheels locked at a full turn, it makes towing it off
>>>>>> problematic as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM,<gow2 at rc-tech.net>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> X2, there has been a lot of information about traditional charges not
>>>>>>> adequatlu charging Optima's once they get low, People returnining them
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the store simply charging them with apropriate chargers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I prefer AGM batteries simply due to the anti corrosiveness.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wow , great info, I'm putting that in my memory bank. Thanks Ken.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>> Calgary
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> Sender: detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:10:56
>>>>>>>> To: Boyd Casey<boyd411 at gmail.com>; detomaso at poca.com<
>>>> detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] new Battery
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What are the symptoms? There is a known problem if you let an Optima
>>>>>>>> discharge too far because a traditional battery charger will think is
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> failed and won't try to charge it. You either need a charger that
>>>> will
>>>>>>>> charge it even if it sees a low voltage, or put it in parallel (not in
>>>>>>>> series!) with a good battery to get the charger to charge it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Boyd Casey<boyd411 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "detomaso at poca.com"<detomaso at poca.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:53 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] new Battery
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I currently have an Optima "Red Top" battery that is 4 years old. It
>>>>>>>> apparently has developed a bad cell. I was wondering what the
>>>> consensus
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> on what is the "best" battery for use in the Pantera. My car is only
>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> for a few months each year.
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