[DeTomaso] Weber IDA48 or injection?
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Sun Nov 25 03:07:25 EST 2012
Yes, if your putting them on a Windsor.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Mendez" <edducati at mac.com>
To: "Bill Moore" <Bill at Incendium.com>
Cc: michael at michaelshortt.com, "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 1:55:46 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber IDA48 or injection?
I appreciate all of the feedback, Awesome!
What about these two links in my original post, would either one work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160897695359?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
or this, and placing it on a Hall Weber manifold:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170762099537?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
The second link looks like you can take the injection off and put it straight onto a Hall Weber Manifold.
Thanks Ed
On 24/11/2012, at 6:20 PM, Bill Moore <Bill at Incendium.com> wrote:
> Buy it now ! After that election the US buck is in freeeeeee fall, lol.
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> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of Julian Kift
> Sent: November-24-12 6:16 PM
> To: will.kooiman at gmail.com; michael at michaelshortt.com; edducati at mac.com
> Cc: De Tomaso List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber IDA48 or injection?
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> I'm still planning to switch to 48 IDF (not IDA's) on the GT5, have the
> carbs just waiting on the US/AUS exchange to tip in my favor a little to get
> the Aussiespeed 48IDF manifold (reproduction of the Cain manifold). The
> IDF's with filters and the Cain manifold will all fit under the decklid and
> stock engine screen, no cutting necessary. The IDF's are reputed to be a
> little more streetable anyway.
> For the '74 I'm leaning toward EFI and have a Kinsler 2 7/16" (62mm)
> mechanical unit on the shelf I'm hoping to be able to convert to EFI.
> Julian
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>> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:25:43 -0600
>> From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
>> To: michael at michaelshortt.com; edducati at mac.com
>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber IDA48 or injection?
>>
>> I took my Webers out of the box, changed the chokes to 42s (they come
>> with 37s), and put them on the intake. They fired the first time, and
>> I've never adjusted them.
>>
>> Mine are rich, but not so bad that they pop or foul the plugs. It
>> felt like they added 50hp.
>>
>> The linkage is a pain in the butt. It works the best to pull from the
>> side rather than using the bell crank in the valley. But the bell
>> crank in the valley looks better.
>>
>> You lose the lumpy exhaust with Webers. The idle is very smooth. It
>> tames the car quite a bit. When my wife heard my car with Webers she
>> said, "I don't know what you did, but it sounds a lot better." Wrong
>> answer.
>>
>> You have to cut the deck lid. You can cut straight across and it
>> looks factory. If you cut two half circles, you can tell the factory
>> didn't do it.
>>
>> You lose your vacuum port, so you need to do something with your
>> vacuum assisted brakes and your PCV. Without a PCV, you mist oil all
>> over the place.
>>
>> You need a decent air filter too. Hall made one years ago, and it
>> fits nicely.
>>
>> I lost 4-5 mpg with Webers. If you don't drive your car very much it
>> doesn't matter. At the time I was commuting from Houston to Dallas.
>> You notice 4-5 mpg when you are doing 500 miles a week.
>>
>> Lots of people run Weber intakes with fuel injection. It seems to
>> work pretty well once you get the EFI adjusted.
>>
>> I prefer Webers, though. If I weren't running Webers, I'd try a
>> tunnel ram with 2 Holleys.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/23/12 3:14 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
>> <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What's your goal, use for the car?
>>>
>>> Webers look cool, hard to keep adjusted, either know how or have a
>>> rotating account with the shop that does. IMHO, the coolest, must cut
>>> the decklid to make them fit.
>>>
>>> EFI Predictable, less lag, fewr problems once it is set up. More
>>> dollars to do it well. Boring and you lose the lumpty lumpty sound
>>> at idle from an aggresive cam. Adjustable with a laptop, doesn't get
>>> much easier.
>>>
>>> Carb. Depends on the model, moderate effort to adjust with jets,
>>> etc., but I love the rumble and the lumpty lump sound at stoplights.
>>>
>>> Michael Shoftt
>>> On Nov 23, 2012 4:04 PM, "Ed Mendez" <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Weber carbs with Hall Pantera manifold or efi unit? If so which efi
>>>> unit?
>>>>
>>>> Currently have a Torker II manifold an Holley 750dp.
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/160897695359?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksi
>>>> d=p39
>>>> 84.m1423.l2649
>>>>
>>>> or this, and placing it on a Hall Weber manifold:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/170762099537?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksi
>>>> d=p39
>>>> 84.m1423.l2649
>>>>
>>>> The second link looks like you can take the injection off and put
>>>> it straight onto a Hall Weber Manifold.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a link to my car pictures:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.icloud.com/journal/#4;CAEQARoQKFFSOKSPhr85aiwbFkUTmQ;F10
>>>> 1C728
>>>> -4DFA-4AC7-8E3D-F37D7621CD11
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