[DeTomaso] Subject: LAYDOWN OR STRAIGHT UP RADIATOR

[asajay at asajay.com]

So how does it work with the Mezier external pump?  The bypass is  
effectively either blocked or merged with the regular flow.  I think  
it's merged but don't have the pieces to validate.

And yes... it does create a nasty air pocket that's a bit tricky to  
get rid of.  In my case, I filled the system from the comfort of the  
passenger seat, via the thermostat housing, which hand turning the  
water pump both ways, working the air out.  It was tedious but  
necessary, having vapor locked the system and overheated.  Next time I  
have it apart, I'll probably drill a small bleed hole in the smaller  
plug.

Asa Jay

Quoting Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:

>
> I am not an advocate of that approach, IMO you should have a bypass,  
>  the difference is a Windsor has a bypass built into the thermostat   
> housing (via the small hose from t-stat housing to water pump). If   
> you seal off the restrictor plate and use the Weiand pump you have   
> created a large air pocket and diferential heating zone right under   
> the thermostat.
>
> Julian
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:34:51 -0700
>> From: garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com; mikeldrew at aol.com; asajay at asajay.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Subject: LAYDOWN OR STRAIGHT UP RADIATOR
>>
>> Clever idea to fill the hole in the restrictor plate with a freeze   
>> plug to completely close the bypass and allow the use of a Windsor   
>> style thermostat.
>>
>> Another option is to use a Weiand Aluminum water pump which has no   
>> bypass. This also allows a Windsor style thermostat to be used.
>>
>> See pics further down on my Thermostat Replacement page:
>> http://www.banzairunnerpantera.com/updates_thermostat.htm
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Garth
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
>> To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at realbig.com>; Mike Drew   
>> <mikeldrew at aol.com>; Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:27 PM
>> Subject: Subject: LAYDOWN OR STRAIGHT UP RADIATOR
>>
>>
>> Yup!
>>
>>
>> That photo is courtesy of AsaJay who is credited and gave me   
>> permission to use it on my site to illustrate the restrictor plate   
>> on my Thermostat Replacement page:   
>> http://www.banzairunnerpantera.com/updates_thermostat.htm
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Garth
>>
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>> Um... yea... That's -my- photo from the 351C undergoing forensics   
>> in my garage.
>> And in fact it goes along with an illustration of the thermostat plug
>> and "hat" being inserted through the hole:   
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=2651 http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=2654 http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=2657 Here is a shot of the one in my Pantera engine: http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=2639 and after installing a freeze plug (press fit) in the hole so a   
>> normal
>> thermostat can be used. Note this removes the bypass function and
>> leads to longer warm-up times.   
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=2814 and this is opposed to what we have an a 400M block, where the   
>> bypass
>> hole is cast into the block:
>> http://www.351c.info/gallery2/v/asajay/351C_Build_2001/thermo_housing_M_400.jpg.html
>> That photo is courtesy another list member whose name I forget but who
>> was considering installing the 400M into their Pantera a long while  
>>  ago. Asa Jay
>> <share and share alike, glad to see the photo's being used> Quoting  
>>  MikeLDrew at aol.com: >>In a message dated 3/26/12 13 01 7, hoppe1  
>>  at cox.net writes: >>>>Everyone has a diferent experience with   
>> cooling systems. >>Depending on what part of the country and temp   
>> sets up a different need. >>>>The one thing that you need to make   
>> sure is in your car is the brass >>washer in the engine below the   
>> thermostat. >>My car was missing this for 2 years before I knew it   
>> and I was doing all >>the recommended upgrades and didn't   
>> understand whey they were not helping. >>If you don't have the   
>> washer water will circulate in the engine and not go >>to the   
>> radiator especially at idle. >>>>An excellent point! One I hadn't   
>> considered. >>Photo here (thanks Garth!)   
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