[DeTomaso] Subject: LAYDOWN OR STRAIGHT UP RADIATOR

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 26 18:05:38 EDT 2012


Excellent point and the same result as having a Windsor style thermostat installed which similarly does not have the hat to close off the washer hole thus water just circulates in the engine leading to overheating.
 
Julian
 

> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:00:15 -0700
> From: hoppe1 at cox.net
> To: LEVITT1946 at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com; charlesmccall at gmail.com; pantdino at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Subject: LAYDOWN OR STRAIGHT UP RADIATOR
> 
> Everyone has a diferent experience with cooling systems.
> Depending on what part of the country and temp sets up a different need.
> 
> The one thing that you need to make sure is in your car is the brass washer in the engine below the thermostat.
> My car was missing this for 2 years before I knew it and I was doing all the recommended upgrades and didn't understand whey they were not helping.
> If you don't have the washer water will circulate in the engine and not go to the radiator especially at idle.
> Rich
> ---- Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > I agree with Charlie.
> > If there were a problem with the system other than air flow thru the radiator you would expect it to overheat when running under load on the freeway rather than at idle.
> > Heat generation is proportional to gas used / power output.
> > 
> > If the engine runs cool when the car is moving but starts to heat up when going slow or idling it means not enough air is moving thru the radiator.
> > 
> > My car did this with the stock fan motors and Meriah fans cured it.
> > 
> > But I don't claim to be an expert on the "special Cleveland thermostat" issue so I don't know if that could also be a problem.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CharlesMcCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> > To: LEVITT1946 <LEVITT1946 at aol.com>; detomaso <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Mar 25, 2012 8:35 am
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Subject: LAYDOWN OR STRAIGHT UP RADIATOR
> > 
> > 
> > Bob
> > f your car runs at 160 on the highway, then the radiator is perfectly
> > apable of cooling the engine with sufficient airflow. 
> > If the temp goes up at lower speeds, then the difference is airflow. This
> > mplies that your fans are not up to the task. 
> > If your problem was air in the system it would affect your car both on the
> > ighway and in traffic. If your problem was that something was blocking flow
> > hrough the system (like having a radiator tilted at an angle that prevents
> > ir from going through it) then again, you'd have problems on the highway
> > nd in traffic. But in traffic your fans are apparently not capable of
> > enerating sufficient airflow. I'd look at those.
> > Charles McCall
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> > ----Original Message-----
> > rom: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> > ehalf Of LEVITT1946 at aol.com
> > ent: domingo, 25 de marzo de 2012 17:20
> > o: detomaso at realbig.com
> > ubject: [DeTomaso] Subject: LAYDOWN OR STRAIGHT UP RADIATOR
> > 
> > ear Group,
> > 
> > years ago I took out the original radiator and replaced it with a 
> > luidyne Radiator . I installed a 160 thermostat and a new high flow water
> > ump. 
> > am changing the thermostat to a robert shaw 180 which is cleveland 
> > pecific. I understand from others that the 160 is most probably for a
> > indsor and 
> > ould be causing non highway cooling temperature increases. 
> > 
> > he car was sent to a shop in California. They laid the radiator down,took 
> > ut the original Meriah Fans and installed two sucker fans. 
> > 
> > o improvement in cooling has been seen. At highway speeds the temperature 
> > s steady at 160 degrees. As soon as I pull off the highway and drive 
> > round town the car temperature starts to rise. In the summer months or
> > ust 
> > top n go traffic , the temperature will increase to 220 plus .
> > 
> > just want to make the car temperature within reason when the car is off 
> > he highway. 
> > 
> > y question is .............Should the fluidyne be laid down when it was 
> > ot designed to be laid down ? Or is my whole problem with rising 
> > emperature air that is trapped in the cooling system.
> > 
> > pen for suggestions .
> > 
> > est Regards,
> > ob Levitt 
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