[DeTomaso] Sorta NPC, goodbye internal combustion engines

Wed Jan 18 20:16:09 EST 2012

I have never said we didn't have any oil of our own, in fact there are
estimates that our reserves are larger than almost all others.

I think or rather I've always hoped that the masterplan was to use up all
of theirs (collectively) saving our reserves for last as well as giving us
more strategic capabilities in case of war, etc.

I would hope by that time (30-50 years) that the flux capacitor / hydrogen
/ geothermal / long term battery issues will have become the normal fuel of
the masses, leaving what little fossil fuels are left for us 80-100 year
old gearheads to play with.

As far as panty floss - LOL.  That was funny!

Michael
On Jan 18, 2012 7:55 PM, "Bill Moore" <Bill at incendium.com> wrote:

> **
> Chill. Everyone needs a hug and a beer. It's our efn oil , whoops "dirty
> oil". The hollywood "types" spread the BS and the "libs" eat it. This
> conservative Redneck wishes we would keep it, refine it in Alberta and sell
> the products.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
> Calgary
> ------------------------------
> *From: * boyd casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:39:47 -0500
> *To: *<michael at michaelshortt.com>
> *Cc: *<Bill at incendium.com>; Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>;
> detomaso at realbig.com<detomaso at realbig.com>; Larry Finch<
> fresnofinches at aol.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [DeTomaso] Sorta NPC, goodbye internal combustion engines
>
> Dear Michael,
> The only time I have been known to wear panties was when I was tearing a
> pair off a lady friend with my teeth and they got caught on my head. I
> don't know who you have been having your intellectual debates with but
> there is no shortage of facts here. I have heard you brag about being able
> to "back your garbage up" but no one is doubting your driving ability LOL
> Seriously I have not seen any facts emanating from your corner.
>
> Some links to facts for you.
>
> US net oil exporter for 2011<http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2011/12/us_net_exports.html>
>
>
> Us net oil exporter #2<http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-12-16/us-oil-boom/52053236/1>
>
> US poised to retake status as net oil exporter<http://seekingalpha.com/article/315669-u-s-poised-to-retake-status-as-net-petroleum-products-exporter>
>
> Tar oil spills <http://ww4report.com/node/9874>
>
> Montana oil pipeline  spills Tar sands oil<http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/15/us-oil-spill-montana-idUSTRE76E0OJ20110715>
>
>
> Let me know how many more facts you want to match up against your "Garbage
> "
> Since Tar sand oil is in many ways similar to garbage your choice of words
> is more apropos then you might think.
> Hugh Boyd Casey
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:10 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
> michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lots of quips from the panty wearing liberals, yet Zero facts... as usual.
>>
>> Obama is a socialist pig, hellbent on destroying our country from within
>> by
>> policy, deed and his uncultured,  inner Kenyan oafishness.
>>
>> Michael
>>  On Jan 18, 2012 7:02 PM, "Bill Moore" <Bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>>
>> > If it's garbage, burn it as fuel. LOL.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Bill
>> > Calgary
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From:   Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> > Sender: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>> > Date:   Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:46:44
>> > To: Larry Finch<fresnofinches at aol.com>; detomaso at realbig.com<
>> > detomaso at realbig.com>
>> > Reply-To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sorta NPC, goodbye internal combustion engines
>> >
>> > Larry,
>> >
>> >     This has gotten past a contest to see who can score points.
>> >
>> >     I'd really like to hear your honest opinion of Obama's energy
>> policy.
>> > The only policy I can see is making fossil fuels very expensive or
>> > unavailable, and subsidizing solar and wind energy, to the extent that
>> > fossil fuels will no longer be viable for the common man in the United
>> > States.  I see a total disregard for the consequences, specifically
>> > the harm to the average American.  I have seen estimates that solar and
>> > wind energy can only provide a small percent (25%?) of the energy we use
>> > now.  What kind of America do you envision when most of use can't drive
>> > cars and can't keep the lights on?  Some people seem to actually think
>> that
>> > electricity comes out of the air and that electric cars mean an end to
>> > fossil fuel, but I assume we all realize that nearly all electricity in
>> the
>> > US is generated from fossil fuel.
>> >
>> >      I am willing to listen to what you think, and if you believe that
>> > global warming is a valid reason to turn the US into a 3rd world
>> economy I
>> > will respect your view, but I would just like a realistic and honest
>> > statement.
>> >
>> > Ken
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
>> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:10 PM
>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Sorta NPC, goodbye internal combustion engines
>> >
>> > Michael wrote -
>> > "be prepared to back your garbage up, I can."
>> >
>> >
>> > Garbage. I am glad you can back your garbage up.
>> >
>> > But if its garbage..........
>> >
>> > You called it, I didn't.  :-)
>> >
>> > Larry - sticks and stones.........
>> >
>> >
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