[DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Tue Jan 17 00:25:14 EST 2012


Roger that.  The Okey division will press on with the Stewart equipment 
while the Wishy-washy division continues investigation into the Meziere.

We can compare notes later. :)
Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&  Shelley Marie
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On 1/16/2012 6:37 PM,  Charles Engles wrote:
> Dear Asa,
>
>
>           The Pantera Research Institute will press on with the original
> plans for the super trick conventional Stewart water pump for the upcoming
> Mark III engine.   Unless our shmoozmeisters in Washington DC are able to
> shake loose some money in Federal grants and loans using the old standard
> ploys: "some will be tempted with silver; some will be tempted with gold and
> some with the pleasures that flesh doth surely hold", the booster in-line
> electric pump research will, umm, run.....dry.   Sorry, but that is what the
> CFO told me.
>
>
>           Hey, we got through last summer's Heat Storm OK with the
> conventional systems (running five to ten degrees hotter than usual), and we
> should be OK until the next round of price drops.
>
>
>                        Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 2:04 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps
>
> Professor Engles,
>
> The Pacific Inland Northwest division of the Pantera Research
> Institute currently prices either the Meziere or the Steward electric
> pumps at a bit over $400.
>
> Feedback from various users indicates a positive experience with
> either unit.  Some run both the electric pump along with a mechanical,
> while others run the electric only.  Beside the idea of a flat
> firewall, I see no specific benefit to running -only- the electric.
> Therefore running both may be the preferred method.
>
> I do agree a controller that could vary the voltage to the pump in
> order to regulate speed (rather than a pulse controller) would also
> benefit.
>
> More research needed, more funding we need to apply for.
>
> Sincerely,
> Asa Jay
> Lead Researcher, PIN PRI
>
> Quoting cengles at cox.net:
>
>> Dear Forest and Dave,
>>
>> What is the approximate cost of this in-line Stewart remote electric
>>   water pump? It certainly sounds attractive.
>>
>> Curious, Chuck Engles
>>
>> ---- Forest Goodhart<forestg at att.net>  wrote:
>>> I run the Stewart remote pump in the return line from the radiator
>>> to the engine
>>> mounted pump. I have it wired so it comes on at the same time as
>>> the fans, about
>>> 200 F, and it brings the temperature down to around 180 F and then
>>> shuts off. It
>>> doesn't run very often on the road but in very warm weather it
>>> does.I am happy
>>> with it in this configuration. I still have the block circulation
>>> for warm up
>>> and the engine driven pump does most of the work.
>>> By the way, Bud's pump is remote mounted rather than block mounted.
>>> Forest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "JDeRyke at aol.com"<JDeRyke at aol.com>
>>> To: DeTomaso at realbig.com
>>> Sent: Mon, January 16, 2012 11:16:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps
>>>
>>> Bud Williams has a block-mounted Mezier on his 351-C road Pantera.
>>> Installation required him to cut the surrounding framework of the
>>> hatch cover
>>> for
>>>
>>> clearance. I would have moved the engine, myself. He successfully made it
> to
>>> 'Vegas&  back from LA one year with a near-stock engine, although he said
>>> 'things got warm on the road' a few times during the 250-or-so
>>> miles across the
>>> desert.
>>> But you were asking about remote mount pumps that mount on the radiator
> or
>>> in-line with the under-car pipes, no? I know of no one who's tried them-
>>> maybe drag racers. Seems like they would be better since you could
>>> also run a
>>> std engine-driven pump and use the electric at low engine speeds.
>>> FWIW- J Deryke
>>> _______________________________________________
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