[DeTomaso] POCA Election Results

Thu Jan 5 01:01:40 EST 2012

That was my very first reaction; I only replied here since it was brought up here which definitely was not necessary from the very beginning.  Thank you for saying what you did!  I've tried to be positive for the 31+ years we've been in POCA but some don't seem to care.

Judy

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From: peter-kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
To: fastgrandma <fastgrandma at aol.com>; detomaso-bounces <detomaso-bounces at realbig.com>; julian_kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; msm <msm at portata.com>; detomaso <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results

I like you both but ask you both...is it necessary that this conversation be 
public? It seems to detract from the positive things the club/group is and 
should be proud of.
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From: fastgrandma <fastgrandma at aol.com>
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Date:	Wed, 4 Jan 2012 22:23:38 
To: <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; <msm at portata.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results

Gee Julian, you are really having a problem with the POCA election this year!  
First it was because only one person was running for each office.  That really 
is very confusing as that has been the case most of the last years and we didn't 
hear you complaining before!  The last time there were two people running for 
one office has been several years ago.  

My next concern is that you actually read the inside cover first before ANY of 
the articles!! How disrespectful to the editor who spends probably as many hours 
a day writing them as you do making $$$ and he does it with just pure devotion 
to the marque.  I truly have never, but never, known anyone who takes more than 
a cursory look at page two.

 As far as the error about not removing my name as president you do have to 
remember that he starts writing each and every Newsletter 45 days before it is 
actually printed and goes out in the mail on time every month.  (In essence this 
means he is nearly finished with the next  issue before the current one reaches 
the members.)  With a very late comer entering the race for POCA president Jack 
was as prepared as possible (as usual) with the January issue as there is little 
time to fill in blank pages at the last minute; therefore page two was already 
prepared before Les made his announcement.  Just be glad that he didn't leave in 
the President's Message that I'd prepared in advance if that had been the 
outcome.  Very little of what goes in the Newsletter can't wait until the last 
minute. By the time the printer gets the final proof it has gone through several 
proof checks but we are only human on occasionally missing something.

I've thought long and hard about how to respond to your VERY unnecessary email 
and frankly, I'm very disappointed to have someone in POCA show such an attitude 
to a mistake; you went far beyond what was necessary. My initial thoughts on how 
to respond I put aside and decided I'm more dignified than to show the colors 
you obviously have which is sad for our POCA membership since you used the forum 
as a vehicle.

I suggest you try showing support for the members that work hard for our club 
rather than complaints; we really don't get all that many members willing to run 
for any office and certainly haven't seen you volunteering, even at chapter 
level. 

Judy

PS - Think maybe I'll have a run for R/T President since I'll have some extra 
time now!

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: fastgrandma <fastgrandma at aol.com>; msm <msm at portata.com>; De Tomaso List 
<detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 3:07 pm
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results

Well I got home and my POCA Newsletter was waiting for me.... I open it to find 
contrary to the list e-mail, on the inside yellow cover Judy DeRyke listed as 
President, so I'd say the Newsletter editor has some explaining to do. 
Somebody's been watching too much Florida voting tactics me thinks... if you 
call it publicly it they must be the winner right!

I for one am glad the outgoing President announced the new President with clear 
communication and not rely on the newsletter where in this instance there 
appears to be some conflict of interest.

Julian

> To: msm at portata.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> From: fastgrandma at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 20:55:08 -0500
> CC: tipo874a at msn.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results
> 
> Gee Mark, you are a real spoilsport; it would've been more fun keeping all the 
members on the edge of their seats waiting for their Newsletters!  :)
> 
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: msm <msm at portata.com>
> To: Detomaso (detomaso at realbig.com) <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Cc: Les Gray (tipo874a at msn.com) <tipo874a at msn.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 12:13 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results
> 
> 
> The POCA election results are complete.  A big thank you to Chuck Engles who 
> collected and tabulated the ballots for us again this year.
> 
> It is my pleasure to announce that Les Gray is the new POCA President 
effective 
> immediately.  Les has many years of experience in POCA and the Pantera 
> community.  He has held POCA positions in the past including being POCA 
> President, so he will be right at home.
> 
> Also returning to the POCA Board are Judy McCartney as our dedicated and 
> tireless Membership Director, Jim Gray as our steadfast Secretary, and Jack 
> DeRyke as our prolific Newsletter Editor.  The full list of the Board of 
> Directors in on http://www.poca.com/index.php/cl/directors
> 
> Thank you Jack, Jim, Judy, and Les for all you have done and will be doing in 
> the coming year.
> 
> I will now move on to the role of Past President relieving John Taphorn who 
will 
> continue to be the Fun Rally co-chair.
> 
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