[DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Trip

Fri Jul 29 11:08:54 EDT 2011

I'd like to donate $100 to help bring Tom Tjaarda to Concorso.  Please 
let me know how I can get my donation to whoever is collecting them 
(hopefully through PayPal).  Thanks.  Larrym at charter.net

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> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 07:25:24 -0400
> From: Larry Weston<lplugw at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Clutch air bleeding
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> I found that the reservoir on my clutch master holds much less fluid than the line and slave cylinder. Keep checking the master fluid level as you work, if it drops too low and you pump in just a puff of air, you're back to square one. 		 	   		
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> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 06:35:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: pantera928<pantera928 at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TOM TJAARDA'S FLIGHT TO C I.
> To: Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>, detomaso at realbig.com,
> 	detomasoregistry at gmail.com, deTomasoCars at comcast.net,	zumzum
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> If you got $30 from each person like AsaJay proposed and got 50 people to donate, that would be $1500 which should cover it. Sorry to hear about your divorce. BTDT 3 times which is why i don't have the nice cars that you do. I won't bew there but would be willing to contribute for the sake of those that go if you can get this off the ground.
> Greg Landwehr
>
> --- On Wed, 7/27/11, zumzum<zumzum at cox.net>  wrote:
>
>> From: zumzum<zumzum at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TOM TJAARDA'S FLIGHT TO C I.
>> To: "Asa Jay Laughton"<asajay at asajay.com>, detomaso at realbig.com, detomasoregistry at gmail.com, deTomasoCars at comcast.net
>> Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 11:43 PM
>> ? Thank you Asa Jay for your
>> question and desire to get Tom where he should be. Without
>> his design, no telling what the Pantera would look like or
>> maybe it would not have been created at all due the crazed
>> and exotic moments of Alejandro de Tomaso.
>>   Yes, I do have a PayPal account. You all know what a high
>> end room and a rent car cost for four days. That is already
>> covered.? My wife and I divorced last week and now more
>> than ever I see the true value of my world wide friends and
>> the love that bonds us together with our family, friends,
>> work, cars and life. Oops, too sappy.
>>   Let's get Tom there.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jeff Cobb, Sent from my iPad
>> ________________
>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the best way to donate?? Do you
>> have? PayPal account or something set up?? You may
>> want to advertise that... unless I missed it.
>>> I can't be there.? It would be nearly that much
>> for -me- to fly from here to the event and stay in a
>> hotel.? But I might be able to offer up $30 to help Tom
>> get here if others play along.? I do think it would be
>> a shame if he didn't make it.
>>> Asa Jay
>>>
>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> &? Shelley Marie
>>> Spokane, WA
>>> ******************************
>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/27/2011 7:57 PM, zumzum at cox.net
>> wrote:
>>>> Hello de Tomaso owners,
>>>>
>>>> ???I write to you as a group to see
>> if there is a real interest in having Tom Tjaarda be present
>> at Concorso Italiano for the 40th anniversary of your marque
>> next month? We all enjoy and speak to everyone about how we
>> love our de Tomasos and Tom was the designer as you all
>> know. Tom and I exchanged emails last week on his 76th
>> birthday, he seemed rather disappointed about not being
>> treated as a guest to C I for the get together of the great
>> cars he created. Here is a part of his letter to me this
>> past week.
>>>> "Unfortunately Jeff, I will not be able to come
>> this summer to Pebble Beach. This year the Pantera club will
>> be celebrating the 40th year of the Pantera and in fact
>> Concorso Italiano asked me to come over for the event.?
>> But for me it is just too expensive considering air fare,
>> hotels and rent car for the four day weekend.? The
>> organizer of the Concorso Italiano event tried to get a
>> sponsor but was unable to work that out. The Pantera club
>> had the same problem so this year I am staying in Torino. It
>> is rather ironic that in September in Japan they will be
>> having a big Pantera event and have invited me to attend
>> with all expenses paid. I even told them that tourist class
>> was fine but they insisted on business class.
>>>> Have a nice summer Jeff and sorry to have to miss
>> the event in Monterey. I always looked forward to the Pebble
>> Beach weekend but this year I will just have to plan other
>> things.
>>>> ? All the best to you and always keep in
>> touch.
>>>> ? Tom "
>>>>
>>>> ???Well group of de Tomaso owners, I
>> and I hope you all would like to see Tom at C I and Pebble
>> where he belongs. So I wrote him back Sunday and offered him
>> a room in a beautiful home on four
>> acres???www.casaborondamonterey.com/?
>> ? that I rent each summer in Monterey and a rent car. I
>> would pay for both. He was grand enough to fly in from Italy
>> twice to be present in my car show/cancer fundraiser?
>> www.liveoakconcours.org/index.html? and I owe him this
>> gratitude. He never accepted payment and I just paid all his
>> cost and treated him like a king. Tom, Piero Rivolta with my
>> family and friends had dinner together the night of Live Oak
>> Concours show, truly amazing stories came out about
>> deTomaso, Enzo, Bizzarrini, Lamborghini and Italian car
>> designing and fighting in the 60's and 70's and their
>> experiences. True stories from men who were there. My wife
>> and I had dinner last Pebble show with Peter and Gayle
>> Brock. I was astounded and happy during dinner when Peter
>> stated that Tom wa
>>>> ? s his mentor of design and that he was
>> grateful for the cars Tom created. Whow!
>>>> ???This is a hopeful letter to the
>> de Tomaso owners for them to sponsor Tom's flight to the
>> Pebble Beach weekend. We would feel honored to have him
>> there so we could thank him for our fine cars designs. The
>> plane may cost $1500. so if 50 members each put up $30., Tom
>> would fly over. Now that is cool and I think the right thing
>> to do. I spent $84. on dinner two hours ago and I can tell
>> you that there are no fond memories or Italian car history
>> or design lessons. You guys get him here and I will take
>> care of his car and home, very simple.
>>>> ???So all, please think about and
>> hopefully act upon this as soon as possible. On the de
>> Tomaso's 50th anniversary, Tom will be 86 years old.
>>>> ? Thanks to you all for reading this and call
>> or mail me if a question comes up,
>>>> Jeff Cobb
>>>> Bordinate Mangusta 1196
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>>>> 69 Ghibli SS
>>>> 71 Espada
>>>> 73 Bora 4.9
>>>> Formula 6000 racer
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>>>> 225-907-4514
>>>> zumzum at cox.net
>>>> www.liveoakconcours.org/index.html
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 07:45:20 -0600
> From: "David in Durango"<adin at frontier.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Trip
> To: "panteras"<detomaso at realbig.com>
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> Pantera boys&  girls,
>
> Our (Pantera) history is important, right?  One never knows when "the situation" may change.
>
> Get Mr. Tjaarda over here.  As a condition he should agree to sit down (for however long it takes) and recount his recollections of how all this came about and all relevant stories on video tape.  Perhaps a nice video production could be made for sale through one of the club stores.  I can't believe Mr. Tjaarda would NOT be happy to document the history and facts.
>
> Whoever does the interview should have some questions ready that might direct the conversation and jog memories.  Some good editing could make a nice presentation.
>
> I have done this with my ex-father in law/mother in law (multi generation family farm and seed store) and it uncovered some great stories from the past. (Frank traded the family car for a small tractor and a jeep one fall - Marian drove that jeep through at least one Minnesota winter back when the creature comforts in a surplus jeep consisted of your gloves and coat)  You get the idea, right?
>
> This is IMPORTANT.
> Asa (club store guy)?  registry wanker (show us you dedication to history)?, ice driving school instructor and media giant from Atlanta?  Mike Drew?  Someone step up and "be the guy" that saves our history first hand!  This is IMPORTANT.  (Yes, I could do it. Yes I would do it if asked. Let's get the appropriate person on this, ok?)
>
> Or we can just sit back and argue about spare tires, which car had what tail light lens or why those wheels don't look cool.
>
> Has this been done?  Maybe I should sit down and shut up . . . .
>
> David in Durango
> just another Icky Old Man
>
>
> Hello de Tomaso owners,
>
>    I write to you as a group to see if there is a real interest in having Tom Tjaarda be present at Concorso Italiano for the 40th anniversary of your marque next month? We all enjoy and speak to everyone about how we love our de Tomasos and Tom was the designer as you all know. Tom and I exchanged emails last week on his 76th birthday, he seemed rather disappointed about not being treated as a guest to C I for the get together of the great cars he created. Here is a part of his letter to me this past week.
>
> "Unfortunately Jeff, I will not be able to come this summer to Pebble Beach. This year the Pantera club will be celebrating the 40th year of the Pantera and in fact Concorso Italiano asked me to come over for the event.  But for me it is just too expensive considering air fare, hotels and rent car for the four day weekend.  The organizer of the Concorso Italiano event tried to get a sponsor but was unable to work that out. The Pantera club had the same problem so this year I am staying in Torino. It is rather ironic that in September in Japan they will be having a big Pantera event and have invited me to attend with all expenses paid. I even told them that tourist class was fine but they insisted on business class.
> Have a nice summer Jeff and sorry to have to miss the event in Monterey. I always looked forward to the Pebble Beach weekend but this year I will just have to plan other things.
>   All the best to you and always keep in touch.
>   Tom "
>
>    Well group of de Tomaso owners, I and I hope you all would like to see Tom at C I and Pebble where he belongs. So I wrote him back Sunday and offered him a room in a beautiful home on four acres   www.casaborondamonterey.com/    that I rent each summer in Monterey and a rent car. I would pay for both. He was grand enough to fly in from Italy twice to be present in my car show/cancer fundraiser  www.liveoakconcours.org/index.html  and I owe him this gratitude. He never accepted payment and I just paid all his cost and treated him like a king. Tom, Piero Rivolta with my family and friends had dinner together the night of Live Oak Concours show, truly amazing stories came out about deTomaso, Enzo, Bizzarrini, Lamborghini and Italian car designing and fighting in the 60's and 70's and their experiences. True stories from men who were there. My wife and I had dinner last Pebble show with Peter and Gayle Brock. I was astounded and happy during dinner when Peter stated that Tom wa
>   s his mentor of design and that he was grateful for the cars Tom created. Whow!
>
>    This is a hopeful letter to the de Tomaso owners for them to sponsor Tom's flight to the Pebble Beach weekend. We would feel honored to have him there so we could thank him for our fine cars designs. The plane may cost $1500. so if 50 members each put up $30., Tom would fly over. Now that is cool and I think the right thing to do. I spent $84. on dinner two hours ago and I can tell you that there are no fond memories or Italian car history or design lessons. You guys get him here and I will take care of his car and home, very simple.
>
>    So all, please think about and hopefully act upon this as soon as possible. On the de Tomaso's 50th anniversary, Tom will be 86 years old.
>
>   Thanks to you all for reading this and call or mail me if a question comes up,
>
> Jeff Cobb
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:03:47 -0400
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com"<michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Trip
> To: David in Durango<adin at frontier.net>
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> If you can get TT over here and have him layover a night in Atlanta (
> I have no idea how the itinerary from  Italy to No. CA works ), I'd be
> happy to meet him with HD Video equipment
> at his hotel and shoot such an interview.  I'd welcome lots of
> question suggestions, unfortunately, I'm in preproduction for a movie
> shooting in Sept and
> can't make the trip myself.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:45 AM, David in Durango<adin at frontier.net>  wrote:
>> Pantera boys&  girls,
>>
>> Our (Pantera) history is important, right? ?One never knows when "the situation" may change.
>>
>> Get Mr. Tjaarda over here. ?As a condition he should agree to sit down (for however long it takes) and recount his recollections of how all this came about and all relevant stories on video tape. ?Perhaps a nice video production could be made for sale through one of the club stores. ?I can't believe Mr. Tjaarda would NOT be happy to document the history and facts.
>>
>> Whoever does the interview should have some questions ready that might direct the conversation and jog memories. ?Some good editing could make a nice presentation.
>>
>> I have done this with my ex-father in law/mother in law (multi generation family farm and seed store) and it uncovered some great stories from the past. (Frank traded the family car for a small tractor and a jeep one fall - Marian drove that jeep through at least one Minnesota winter back when the creature comforts in a surplus jeep consisted of your gloves and coat) ?You get the idea, right?
>>
>> This is IMPORTANT.
>> Asa (club store guy)? ?registry wanker (show us you dedication to history)?, ice driving school instructor and media giant from Atlanta? ?Mike Drew? ?Someone step up and "be the guy" that saves our history first hand! ?This is IMPORTANT. ?(Yes, I could do it. Yes I would do it if asked. Let's get the appropriate person on this, ok?)
>>
>> Or we can just sit back and argue about spare tires, which car had what tail light lens or why those wheels don't look cool.
>>
>> Has this been done? ?Maybe I should sit down and shut up . . . .
>>
>> David in Durango
>> just another Icky Old Man
>>
>>
>> Hello de Tomaso owners,
>>
>> ?I write to you as a group to see if there is a real interest in having Tom Tjaarda be present at Concorso Italiano for the 40th anniversary of your marque next month? We all enjoy and speak to everyone about how we love our de Tomasos and Tom was the designer as you all know. Tom and I exchanged emails last week on his 76th birthday, he seemed rather disappointed about not being treated as a guest to C I for the get together of the great cars he created. Here is a part of his letter to me this past week.
>>
>> "Unfortunately Jeff, I will not be able to come this summer to Pebble Beach. This year the Pantera club will be celebrating the 40th year of the Pantera and in fact Concorso Italiano asked me to come over for the event. ?But for me it is just too expensive considering air fare, hotels and rent car for the four day weekend. ?The organizer of the Concorso Italiano event tried to get a sponsor but was unable to work that out. The Pantera club had the same problem so this year I am staying in Torino. It is rather ironic that in September in Japan they will be having a big Pantera event and have invited me to attend with all expenses paid. I even told them that tourist class was fine but they insisted on business class.
>> Have a nice summer Jeff and sorry to have to miss the event in Monterey. I always looked forward to the Pebble Beach weekend but this year I will just have to plan other things.
>> ?All the best to you and always keep in touch.
>> ?Tom "
>>
>> ?Well group of de Tomaso owners, I and I hope you all would like to see Tom at C I and Pebble where he belongs. So I wrote him back Sunday and offered him a room in a beautiful home on four acres ? www.casaborondamonterey.com/ ? ?that I rent each summer in Monterey and a rent car. I would pay for both. He was grand enough to fly in from Italy twice to be present in my car show/cancer fundraiser ?www.liveoakconcours.org/index.html ?and I owe him this gratitude. He never accepted payment and I just paid all his cost and treated him like a king. Tom, Piero Rivolta with my family and friends had dinner together the night of Live Oak Concours show, truly amazing stories came out about deTomaso, Enzo, Bizzarrini, Lamborghini and Italian car designing and fighting in the 60's and 70's and their experiences. True stories from men who were there. My wife and I had dinner last Pebble show with Peter and Gayle Brock. I was astounded and happy during dinner when Peter stated that Tom wa
>> ?s his mentor of design and that he was grateful for the cars Tom created. Whow!
>>
>> ?This is a hopeful letter to the de Tomaso owners for them to sponsor Tom's flight to the Pebble Beach weekend. We would feel honored to have him there so we could thank him for our fine cars designs. The plane may cost $1500. so if 50 members each put up $30., Tom would fly over. Now that is cool and I think the right thing to do. I spent $84. on dinner two hours ago and I can tell you that there are no fond memories or Italian car history or design lessons. You guys get him here and I will take care of his car and home, very simple.
>>
>> ?So all, please think about and hopefully act upon this as soon as possible. On the de Tomaso's 50th anniversary, Tom will be 86 years old.
>>
>> ?Thanks to you all for reading this and call or mail me if a question comes up,
>>
>> Jeff Cobb
>>
>>
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