[DeTomaso] New Pantera story - 2011 LA Auto Show??

[Julian Kift]

In 1970 you could buy a Lambhorghini Miura for $19,750, today you can buy it for $500K to $1M. You can buy the modern equivament Murcielago for MSRP $360-$455K, what does this mean? Nothing really, just you can make an argument any way you want depending who you think the target buyer is for a new Pantera. The closest equivalent I can think of is the Ford GT, with MSRP of $155K and trading well above that or an Audi R8 at $196K. Thinking a new Pantera could ever be had for $60K is ludicrous IMO, you can hardly get a new top of the range F150 for that money.
 
The best we can hope for is that a new Pantera brings a resurgence of interest and better appreciation for the classic Pantera thus increasing values, much like the surge in GT40 replicas since the new GT.
 
Julian
 

> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:51:34 -0700
> From: erpike at ymail.com
> To: jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com; detomaso at realbig.com; fresnofinches at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Pantera story - 2011 LA Auto Show??
> 
> How about this comparision then....
>  
> In 1972 a Pantera cost about 11,000. You could buy a top of the line Lincoln for about 11,000. 
>  
> Today you can buy a top of the line Lincoln for about 65,000 .... therefore to be the "same" kind of car. a new Pantera should run about the same??
>  
> Just a thought....
>  
> Ed....
> 
> From: John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
> To: detomaso at realbig.com; Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Pantera story - 2011 LA Auto Show??
> 
> Well, lets be fair.  The inflation factor may get you a car equivalent to 
> the one you purchased in 1972 for $60,000. And by golly, you can by a great 
> '72 Pantera today for $60,000
> 
> However, today's cars are an order of magnitude far superior in many 
> aspects.  One would assume that this time around you may get a car that is 
> 100,000 miles between tune-ups verses 30000 for a total rebuild.  You may 
> not see rust for 10 years verses three seasons.  The AC may actually work 
> and the radiators actually cool.  The chassis flex may be minimized to 
> enhance handling and steering effort reduced at slow speeds for those in 
> need.  Accident survivability would be improved with adequate restraint 
> systems and air bags.  The glove box may not double as a water collector and 
> the climate control systems may move forward from the stone age.  Driving 
> lights may extend beyond 10 candlewatt and seats may be adjustable.  My 
> point is that it ought to be a lot more car than we had in 1972.  I am not 
> defending it's eventual cost or whether the enhancements will be perceived 
> as real or worthwhile by buyers.  I am only stating that with govt mandates 
> and the rising bar of expectations by buyers based on modern car 
> experiences, ( where are those cup holders and GPS?) the inflation point is 
> interesting and perhaps effectively plays on peoples emotions to make them 
> feel they are getting screwed; but it is misleading.
> 
> JT
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry Finch" <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 3:13 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] New Pantera story - 2011 LA Auto Show??
> 
> 
> >
> > I'm with Charlie on this - where is the "promised" Deauvillle??
> >
> > Additionally, accounting for inflation, the $11,000 cost of a Pantera in 
> > 1972
> > now equates to about $60,000 current dollars.
> >
> > If the article's quoted ballpark figure of 150,000 GBP is correct, that 
> > would
> > be equal to about $250,000.
> >
> > That means the "new" Pantera will NOT be in the same league as the 
> > original
> > Pantera.
> >
> > Whole new ballgame.
> >
> > Probably one to be called off prior to even starting, on account of no one 
> > showing up at the field.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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