[DeTomaso] made in China

thomas thomas at hax.se
Thu Dec 15 16:34:55 EST 2011


Do you have a cellphone?

I bet it is "assembled in china", like this iPhone 4 I'm typing this on. I believe apple still gets a lot of the money for it.

15 dec 2011 kl. 22:15 skrev Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>:

> I take a slightly different spin on this. Made in China means, except for
> the mark-up, profits go to China.  Made in USA means corporate profits stay
> in USA. Though I admit some components may come from elsewhere, the primary
> profits stay stateside.  I'm proud to say that nothing I bought as
> Christmas presents this year was stamped Made in China.
> 
> Rob
> 
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> For the 'older' folks among us, I'm sure we all remember the
>> statements where 'eEverything is from Japan these days!' and 'All
>> things from Japan are crap!' statements? I know I do.
>> They use to rate things based on transistor quantity! A 12 transistor
>> radio was better than a 6 transistor radio!
>> 
>> Yet, if I ask my son, he will tell you that really good stuff comes
>> from Japan. He never saw the cheap crap that came from Japan in the
>> early stages of their manufacturing development.
>> 
>> For example, Korea has gone through the same type of manufacturing
>> development along with many other countries over the last 50 years.
>> 
>> I am not 'sticking up for China', but consider the following:
>> 
>> - Not buying stuff made in China will certainly restrict your choices.
>> - Cost of goods from China is certainly lower due to the lower labor costs
>> - We live in a global economy, like it or not
>> - Even 'Made in the USA may mean 'Assembled in the USA'. Some people
>> here aren't too picky about what that means.
>> - Have anything you call a computer on your desk/in your lap/in your
>> pocket? I think you will find they are all made in China or have had
>> components from all over the world which have been assembled in China
>> or Taiwan or Thailand or (insert country here). Hard disks from
>> Singapore, hard disks from Thailand.
>> - Have an Apple product? They at least tell you 'Designed in
>> California', 'Made in China'. Many of the components come from Korea
>> and Taiwan.
>> - You will start to see (if you haven't already) many things made in
>> India. Why? Labor costs. Labor costs are going up in China.
>> - Good quality goods are made in China, too. It is up to the company
>> having it made there to define the quality of the materials and the
>> quality of the assembly/build. And then... you pay more for the extra
>> quality going into it, but the labor costs are still lower than here
>> or Europe.
>> - China, Korea and Japan are all getting a very large percentage of
>> their raw material (iron ore, etc.) from Australia.
>> 
>> I would think that you'd be hard pressed to find an item where you can
>> prove definitively that from material to final product it is 'Made in
>> the USA'.
>> 
>> I will repeat myself... It's all about the global economy we live in,
>> like it or not.
>> 
>> Damn.... my soap box just disappeared!
>> 
>> OH, well....
>> Later,
>> Kirby
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 14:29, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> My old Maseratis have NO parts made in China. They do not run, but I
>>> proudly stand by them (in a puddle of oil).
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:11 PM, <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In a message dated 12/15/11 8 38 32, timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I once heard that almost all the cam blanks come from China.  Is that
>>>>> true?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know about cams, but almost all crank castings and forgings
>> begin
>>>> life in China.   The quality (and price) of the finished product is
>>>> normally
>>>> down to whether the finish-machining is conducted there, or here.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is better...
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
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