[DeTomaso] made in China

Thu Dec 15 16:58:15 EST 2011

I would guess yes because the US company has its own profit center and
possibly shareholders if they are publicly traded, but of course it is up
to any company to move profits around anywhere.  I use it as a general rule
when making buying decisions, but I admit that without extensive research,
one never knows where money goes. I just try to do my part and am tired
like all of you of poor quality crap you find in hardware stores and
mega-marts from China. When something breaks after its first use, I always
return it to get my money back, not a replacement, with the idealistic hope
that if enough people returned the crap, businesses would stop buying it.
 I also seek out locally-owned small restaurants when traveling rather than
chains and pick locally-owned small business service providers over chains
too.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:

> I have been selling a product that has/was made in Japan for over 30 years.
> It is a very large company with many divisions. The also have a US division
> that is a US corporation.
>
> Is this normal for non US companies to do?
>
> Does this mean more money stays in the US (if I pay them that is)?
>
>
>
> "The World Is Flat" is a very good book on this subject. Telling you how
> this all came about in the 90's.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/World-Flat-3-0-History-Twenty-first/dp/0312425074/ref=
> sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323984418&sr=8-1
>
>
>
> Larry - Cleveland
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:16 PM
> To: Kirby Schrader
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] made in China
>
> I take a slightly different spin on this. Made in China means, except for
> the mark-up, profits go to China.  Made in USA means corporate profits stay
> in USA. Though I admit some components may come from elsewhere, the primary
> profits stay stateside.  I'm proud to say that nothing I bought as
> Christmas presents this year was stamped Made in China.
>
> Rob
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Kirby Schrader
> <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > For the 'older' folks among us, I'm sure we all remember the
> > statements where 'eEverything is from Japan these days!' and 'All
> > things from Japan are crap!' statements? I know I do.
> > They use to rate things based on transistor quantity! A 12 transistor
> > radio was better than a 6 transistor radio!
> >
> > Yet, if I ask my son, he will tell you that really good stuff comes
> > from Japan. He never saw the cheap crap that came from Japan in the
> > early stages of their manufacturing development.
> >
> > For example, Korea has gone through the same type of manufacturing
> > development along with many other countries over the last 50 years.
> >
> > I am not 'sticking up for China', but consider the following:
> >
> >  - Not buying stuff made in China will certainly restrict your choices.
> >  - Cost of goods from China is certainly lower due to the lower labor
> costs
> >  - We live in a global economy, like it or not
> >  - Even 'Made in the USA may mean 'Assembled in the USA'. Some people
> > here aren't too picky about what that means.
> >  - Have anything you call a computer on your desk/in your lap/in your
> > pocket? I think you will find they are all made in China or have had
> > components from all over the world which have been assembled in China
> > or Taiwan or Thailand or (insert country here). Hard disks from
> > Singapore, hard disks from Thailand.
> >  - Have an Apple product? They at least tell you 'Designed in
> > California', 'Made in China'. Many of the components come from Korea
> > and Taiwan.
> >  - You will start to see (if you haven't already) many things made in
> > India. Why? Labor costs. Labor costs are going up in China.
> >  - Good quality goods are made in China, too. It is up to the company
> > having it made there to define the quality of the materials and the
> > quality of the assembly/build. And then... you pay more for the extra
> > quality going into it, but the labor costs are still lower than here
> > or Europe.
> >  - China, Korea and Japan are all getting a very large percentage of
> > their raw material (iron ore, etc.) from Australia.
> >
> > I would think that you'd be hard pressed to find an item where you can
> > prove definitively that from material to final product it is 'Made in
> > the USA'.
> >
> > I will repeat myself... It's all about the global economy we live in,
> > like it or not.
> >
> > Damn.... my soap box just disappeared!
> >
> > OH, well....
> > Later,
> > Kirby
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 14:29, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My old Maseratis have NO parts made in China. They do not run, but I
> > > proudly stand by them (in a puddle of oil).
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:11 PM, <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> In a message dated 12/15/11 8 38 32, timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com writes:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > I once heard that almost all the cam blanks come from China.  Is
> that
> > >> > true?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> I don't know about cams, but almost all crank castings and forgings
> > begin
> > >> life in China.   The quality (and price) of the finished product is
> > >> normally
> > >> down to whether the finish-machining is conducted there, or here.
> > >>
> > >> Here is better...
> > >>
> > >> Mike
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