[DeTomaso] Schroth Dot Harness

[boyd casey]

American Modern Home , they are a subsidiary of Geico that insures classic
cars (among other things) You have to have Your "regular use car" insured
with geico in order to have them insure your classic car. They allow 6000
miles a year for any purpose and my car has an "'Agreed upon value" of
$45,000 for an annual premium of $600 and change.
Boyd

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Dave McManus <dave at damardirect.com> wrote:

> Who is your insurance company?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boyd casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:52 PM
> To: Asa Jay Laughton
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Schroth Dot Harness
>
> My Point is not that any sanctioning body requires DOT approved belts. In
> fact as far as I know there are no competition belts that are DOT
> compliant.The points I am attempting to make are two fold  1. some people
> seem to be concerned about having a problem with their insurance carrier by
> using non dot compliant harnesses on the street. The Schroth ralley tuner
> series is DOT compliant if used according to their instructions (right belt
> for right car installed properly etc. @. The second issue is having
> harnesses that can be used f or competition. Most sanctioning bodies (SCCA
> etc) require belts approved by FIA or SFI and they to my knowledge require
> 3" shoulder belts and 5 or 6 point harnesses (BMW CC requires 6 or 7 point)
> The schroth tuner belts are DOT but they are not 5, 6 or 7 point and are
> neither FIA or SFI approved. It's not a question of what I want to use my
> car for it's a question of people receiving the correct information to meet
> their needs and not waste their money on a product that won't meet their
> needs.
> The Silver State only allows 3 point factory seat belts in the most basic
> class which is the touring class (top speed 110 tech speed 124) Starting
> with the next class up (the grand touring class 5 or 6 point harnesses are
> required) I would rather spend the money on a 6 point harness that is FIA
> or
> SFI approved and retain my factory lap belt to satisfy my insurance company
> for street driving then to spend $170.00 X2 (for both seats) for a harness
> that would not meet the tech inspection requirements of most of the
> competitive events above everything but the most novice competitive
> classes.
>
> >
> > Boyd
> > Quoting JDeRyke at aol.com:
> >
> > > In a message dated 9/16/10 2:47:00 PM, rgg at gregorycook.com writes:
> > >
> > >> The open road racing events do require race harnesses for the higher
> > >> speed classes (above 125 IIRC) only. As you say you can leave your
> > >> OEM belts in
> > >> the car with the harness. That being said there's lots of Panteras
> > running
> > >> around with 5 point harnesses and I've never heard of anybody having
> an
> > >> issue with DOT compliance.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Correct, except as Gray says, in those higher speed classes, Tech
> > > inspectors may look at the date of mfg on the harnesses. But not the
> > >  size of the
> > > webbing or how it connects.... FWIW- J DeRyke
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