[DeTomaso] 1972 Pantera shift linkage

Wed Oct 6 01:28:30 EDT 2010

Thank's for the correction in terminology.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> wrote:

> I think you are using the wrong terms to describe your problem.  The
> trunnion is the part that supports the shaft above the frame.  The
> shafts slides through it.  It is mounted near the back of the engine on
> the driver's side.  It is adjustable up and down.  It is item 13 in this
> picture.
>
> http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill10b.html
>
> The part I think you are describing is the shift rod adjuster.  It is
> item 10 in that same picture.  It has a forward nut and a read nut.
> This part is used to adjust the fore/aft and left to right position of
> the gear shift lever.
>
> If my descriptions match what you are talking about, then you are
> correct, the forward lock nut and the rear lock nut must be tight for
> the shift linkage to operate properly.  Like others have said, one of
> these two nuts is a left hand thread.  According the that image, it is
> the nut closest to the transaxle that is the left hand thread.
>
> Paul
> #9270
>
> On 10/5/2010 3:38 PM, boyd casey wrote:
> > I was helping Bob try to straighten out his shifter problem. His shifter
> > gate appears to be original. It's important to note that everything
> worked
> > before he had the car taken apart. The guy who did the restoration
> painted
> > the shifter linkage and now the trunnion nuts are frozen. (not all of
> them).
> > The lock nut closest to the fire wall is free and when you try to shift
> into
> > reverse the shifter linkage shaft turns into and out of the trunnion.. We
> > both tried to free the trunnion and the last nut(the one closest to the
> > back of the car. I suggested trying the formula of automatic tranny fluid
> > and acetone and possibly heat. It is my understanding that the linkage is
> > not supposed to be painted. I think if we could get the trunnion and lock
> > nuts free we could have gotten the shifter aligned..
> > Boyd
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:41 PM,<hoppe1 at cox.net>  wrote:
> >
> >> If you have thick carpet it raises the shift cover where the shift gate
> >> sits on
> >> see if you can get the cover to go down further and it will help the
> left
> >> and righ movement
> >> Rich
> >> ---- Dave Londry<davel at emspace.com>  wrote:
> >>>    That's a good procedure.
> >>> Now just in case Bob has this one also....................
> >>>
> >>> I can't get enough lateral travel.
> >>> When I set the turnbuckle with the shifter far enough to the right to
> >>> get reverse, I scrape the right side of the 2nd gear gate.
> >>> When I re-centre it for 2nd&  4th, I can't get reverse.
> >>>
> >>> You'd thing the console was up too high or something like that.
> >>> Anybody have an idea?
> >>> tks
> >>> dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10/3/2010 8:21 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
> >>>> This is most certainly a shift rod alignment issue, did you remove
> both
> >> ends of the shift linkage for painting?
> >>>>
> >>>> If the turnbuckle was not previously undone the shift rod may have
> been
> >> reassembled with a u-joint offset by one spline, which is possible to do
> and
> >> still get the bolt to go through the clamp.
> >>>>
> >>>> Remember that the turnbuckle has one right hand thread and one left
> >> hand thread, so be sure to wrench in the right direction. Left hand
> threads
> >> are normally moarked on the nut with a small nick/cut on the hexagonal
> ponts
> >> of the nut. It sounds like you have undone the right hand nut, so try
> >> tightening the other one and it should undo!
> >>>>
> >>>> For adjustment put the car in neutral and then adjust the turnbuckle
> so
> >> as to center the gear stick in the middle of the gate neutral position
> as a
> >> first approximation and the fine tune from there if need be. Be aware
> that a
> >> very small movement on the turnbuckle is quite a change at the gear
> stick,
> >> so much so that the act of retightening the turnbuckle can misalign
> >> everything again if you don't hold it in the desired position whilst you
> >> button everything up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Good luck,
> >>>> Julian
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: LEVITT1946 at aol.com
> >>>>> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:08:35 -0400
> >>>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] 1972 Pantera shift linkage
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Friends ,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My car is painted ,running and I cannot seem to get the car into gear
> >> ..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have tried adjusting the turn screw and the two bolts on the
> linkage
> >> . I
> >>>>> can only move the bolt closest to the engine . When I loosen that
> bolt
> >> the
> >>>>> car will go thru the gears but there is no reverse .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I started the engine and used the clutch to run thru the gears . All
> >> gears
> >>>>> seem to work but when i put the car in reverse she still moves
> forward
> >> .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ideas,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does the clutch need to be bled ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does the linkage need adjusting? I cannot move it .It is frozen in
> >> place
> >>>>> .Use heat?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can this all be caused by needing to be bled more or is it an
> >> adjustment at
> >>>>> the slave cylinder ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Bob Levitt
> >>>>> Team Pantera Racing #3196
> >>>>> Gumball3000 #56
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