[DeTomaso] Long and Newman body & frame cheap on ebay

[L GRAY]

   Hey there Asa!

          The headlamp arrangement was done by the owner probably. We never did that kind of mod to our cars as we really wanted them to be as exact a reproduction as possible.

         The events of the last two years kind of sucked my enthusiasm for anything right out of me. It's probable that I will resurface and become more active in the coming year I hope!

                                                         Best regards,
                                                                 Les Gray
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Asa Jay Laughton<mailto:asajay at asajay.com> 
  To: detomaso at realbig.com<mailto:detomaso at realbig.com> 
  Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Long and Newman body & frame cheap on ebay


  Les,

  Thank you (again) for clearing that up.  So do you have any idea  
  what's up with the headlights?  Though the rest of the body looks  
  Pantera, the headlights are a definite departure, unless the L&N did  
  this as an option of sorts.  What's the scoop?

  You know... it's been so long since we've seen you... you might have  
  to send a picture.  :)

  Asa Jay

  Quoting L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com<mailto:tipo874a at msn.com>>:

  >           Jack and everyone else,
  >
  >         For the 9,000th  time. . . . . . .  The tooling/ body   
  > molding was pulled from MY 1972-L Pantera chassis number THPNML04371  
  >  NOT from a Gary Hall car. Gary Hall and Hall Pantera had absolutely  
  >  nothing to do with the manufacture or sales of the Long & Newman   
  > Pantera Replica.
  >        There were only a hand full of these cars produced due to   
  > expense and only two were ever set up for the V-6 Citation drive   
  > train. The balance of these built were all 351-C engines and ZF   
  > transaxles .
  >        Even the V-6 cars retained the standard Pantera suspension at  
  >  the front but the GM at the rear. The V-8 cars were all De Tomaso   
  > suspension down to the lug nuts. I kind know this stuff as I helped   
  > design the whole Pantera project at L & N.
  >       Any body having questions PLEASE ask me and you will get the   
  > facts not guesses and myth.
  >
  >                                                                   Les Gray
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: JDeRyke at aol.com<mailto:JDeRyke at aol.com<mailto:JDeRyke at aol.com%3Cmailto:JDeRyke at aol.com>>
  >   To: kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com%3Cmailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>> ;   
  > detomaso at realbig.com<mailto:detomaso at realbig.com<mailto:detomaso at realbig.com%3Cmailto:detomaso at realbig.com>>
  >   Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:39 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Long and Newman body & frame cheap on ebay
  >
  >
  >   In a message dated 10/1/10 9:46:52 AM,   
  > kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com%3Cmailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>> writes:
  >
  >   > The frame/rear suspension does not look right to me?
  >   >   
  > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170544689280<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170544689280<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170544689280<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170544689280>>
  >   >
  >   Its been 30 years since I checked one out, but as I remember, the
  >   square-tube frames took mid-80s GM front suspension on both ends   
  > to accompany the
  >   Citation/Fiero V-6 front-wheel drive engine- trans that most L-N   
  > cars got. .
  >   Its true that stock steel body panels interchange- the primary   
  > mold was pulled
  >   from one of Gary Hall's Panteras, and some vented fiberglas frt hoods, like
  >   mine- are old L-N parts. Ex- POCA Pres Les Gray worked for L-N and has some
  >   interesting stories on them. Ad says 'used for racing'- wonder if it was
  >   drag racing or road racing? FWIW- J DeRyke
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