[DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes

Mon Nov 8 22:17:02 EST 2010

Interesting reading, all I can say is that it's ashame that wheat isn't
valued like oil, you can't eat oil!

If our country would quit being influenced by a dying industry (oil) and
like France derived 95% of our power from clean nuclear
power plants, we could sustain ourselves w/o the bastards.

But OMG, the snail darters and the tiny weenie, spooky blue owl might be
endangered.

Boo Hoo.

Give me a break,

Michael

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Peter Kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

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> ________________________________
> From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com; doug351c at gmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com;
> chrisvkimball at msn.com; p6746 at aol.com; fresnofinches at aol.com
> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 6:45:58 PM
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes
>
>
> Larry, reading your lines below - you have gotten the problem, "...both
> sides of
> the aisle are in the pocket of the Wall-street corporate machine...."  Now,
> if
> you will only include ANYONE who wants to buy votes (you are in bed with
> the
> unions, Sierra Club, PETA, NOW - you don't think that they buy votes), you
> will
> be entirely correct.  So, we Americans have to tackle THAT problem first
> before
> we can ever solve any of out party planks!  ---Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:14:26 -0800
> > From: kenn_green at yahoo.com
> > To: doug351c at gmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com; chrisvkimball at msn.com;
> >P6746 at aol.com; fresnofinches at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes
> >
> > As Thomas Jefferson said
> >
> > "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood
> of
> >patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure."
> >
> > Maybe you have heard of him?  Most liberals have, but conveniently avoid
> just
> >about everything he ever said.
> >
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes
> > To: kenn_green at yahoo.com, doug351c at gmail.com, detomaso at realbig.com,
> >chrisvkimball at msn.com, P6746 at aol.com
> > Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 2:01 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > While tax RATES are an interesting portion of the issue, I haven't seen
> any of
> >my detractors contest
> > my post which pointed out the actual share of overall US taxes received
> that
> >are PAID by corporations has
> > been lessening while the individuals' portion has been increasing.
> >
> > But those figures aren't what my detractors want to learn about, or
> apparently,
> >comprehend.
> >
> > Perhaps the corporate-politico-lobbyist machine has added enough
> loopholes and
> >write-offs in recent decades to
> > give the "high taxes are killing us" corporate crocodile tears apparent
> >validity to those not willing to look at the
> > bottom line of who is now actually PAYING what?
> >
> > And just for the record, just as both sides of the aisle are in the
> pocket of
> >the Wall Street-corporate machine, so too is the corporate-owned media.
> > They depend on advertising, not letters to the editor. They know who to
> side
> >with, and despite the off-repeated 'liberal media' buzzword,
> > for the most part the media's agenda is not the Common Man's agenda.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > P.S. - Ken, I'm still waiting to hear the details on the Civil War you
> alluded
> >to in your recent post. Or did I infer something other than what you
> >          meant by your use of the word revolution? To me a revolution is
> an
> >internal armed uprising against a government. You could have said
> >          it would be time for increased political action, time to propose
> and
> >pass changes to the constitution, time for peaceful demonstrations to
> >          garner support for changes in laws and regulations. But you said
> >revolution.
> >          Again, please provide the details of just what your revolution
> would
> >entail.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> > To: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>; fresnofinches at aol.com; Pantera List
> Serve
> ><detomaso at realbig.com>; Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 10:49 am
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Darn it Chris, don't confuse the rhetoric with facts.  The liberal main
> stream
> >media won't stand for it!
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes
> > To: "Doug Braun" <doug351c at gmail.com>, fresnofinches at aol.com, "Pantera
> List
> >Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 9:59 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > By the way, there was a response about corporate taxes versus personal
> taxes.
> >Corporate tax rates are as follows (2209 rates):
> >
> >
> > 75,000 to 100,000:        34% tax rate
> > 100,000 to            335,000:        39% tax rate
> >
> > So you'll notice, the tax rates are higher than individual tax rates.
> It's
> >true that many large corporations have years when they pay little or no
> taxes,
> >but in many cases that's because they have carry-forward losses from
> previous
> >years.  That, or they're getting subsidies from the Government for
> creating
> >"green energy" products, that on their own wouldn't make a dime, but would
> >instead lose money.  In fact, the head of our regional power company spoke
> at
> >Rotary the other day, and when questioned, she had to admit that the wind
> power
> >facilities they are operating would be a total money-losing proposition if
> it
> >weren't for Federal subsidies.
> >
> > Oh, and by the way, trust tax rates are even more egregious.  After only
> the
> >first $11,200 of income, the rate is 35%, or in other words, the same as
> the top
> >marginal individual rate.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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